[biz-engineer]

This thread is a very bad thread idea. Imagine Ricoh have almost finished the design of the new camera. Now they read this thread and realize they will include a new feature that Pentaxian say they want, then have to postpone the new K release far into 2020 / spring 2021 so that to modify camera design / firmware to include new features.

[Kunzite]

This thread is a very bad thread idea. Imagine Ricoh have almost finished the design of the new camera. Now they read this thread and realize they will include a new feature that Pentaxian say they want, then have to postpone the new K release far into 2020 / spring 2021 so that to modify camera design / firmware to include new features.

The decision to postpone a feature-freeze design in order to implement something they read on a forum will be communicated all over Ricoh Imaging by flying pigs.

[BigMackCam]

This thread is a very bad thread idea. Imagine Ricoh have almost finished the design of the new camera. Now they read this thread and realize they will include a new feature that Pentaxian say they want, then have to postpone the new K release far into 2020 / spring 2021 so that to modify camera design / firmware to include new features.

I doubt anyone will come up with any wish-list items that haven't already been discussed numerous times on these forums. There's a core feature set most of us want, and that's been discussed to death in various threads over the years. Anything truly new is likely to be quite specialist, with a fairly narrow appeal.

I don't think a discussion thread like this is going to influence Ricoh's development of the new APS-C flagship. I suspect that is largely complete anyway, and going through final testing / tweaking and manufacturing readiness stages...

[kypfer]

I was very much taken with the TAv mode once I "discovered" it's capabilities, thought I was on to a "good thing" ... I find since that Canon (and possibly others) implement similar capability simply by allowing Auto-ISO in Manual mode!
I change lenses very regularly, having the sensor give itself a shake every time the camera is turned on is very comforting
I use a top-panel LCD if it's there, but since the purchase of my K-70 (and now my KP) I'm learning to live without it
An infra-red sensor on the back of the camera is really useful ... one of the reasons I kept hold of my K-5! I don't have a "SmartPhone", so remote Wi-Fi operation isn't an option
I'd not buy a camera without OVF dioptre adjustment, on the odd occasion I want/need to shoot without my spectacles it's an absolute necessity.
The infamous "Green Button" - couldn't live without it! Far too many legacy lenses to consider replacing them with modern equivalents.
I only have one lens that appears to need fine AF adjustment, but it's my "best" lens, so I'm grateful for the capability

[Dartmoor Dave]

Numbers 1-6 in the list aren't of much use to me personally, but I use 7-11 all the time. I'm slightly hesitant to mention the extra feature that I'd really like, because in the past I've been surprised by the vehemence with which some people have opposed it. But what the heck -- here goes. . .

I'd like to have an incident meter, either built into the camera or perhaps as an option that clips into the hot shoe. Incident metering with my Sekonic L-308S is a fundamental part of the way I do my photography, and it would be great to have a way of taking an incident reading with the camera itself rather than having to carry a separate meter. In my imagination, the camera would have an incident dome built into the pentaprism cover instead of the pop-up flash that I personally never use. But a clip-on attachment for the hot shoe would be fine too.

How would it work in practice? Let's say I've got the camera in AV mode with the aperture and ISO set to what I want and manual incident metering enabled, then all I'd need to do is press the green button and the camera would set the appropriate shutter speed.

The only thing I'd ask, before people start diving in and telling me that it's a terrible idea that couldn't possibly work, is that you remember that I use incident metering all the time and I'm well aware of how it works, and of its advantages and limitations.

[kypfer]

Numbers 1-6 in the list aren't of much use to me personally, but I use 7-11 all the time. I'm slightly hesitant to mention the extra feature that I'd really like, because in the past I've been surprised by the vehemence with which some people have opposed it. But what the heck -- here goes. . .

I'd like to have an incident meter, either built into the camera or perhaps as an option that clips into the hot shoe. Incident metering with my Sekonic L-308S is a fundamental part of the way I do my photography, and it would be great to have a way of taking an incident reading with the camera itself rather than having to carry a separate meter. In my imagination, the camera would have an incident dome built into the pentaprism cover instead of the pop-up flash that I personally never use. But a clip-on attachment for the hot shoe would be fine too.

How would it work in practice? Let's say I've got the camera in AV mode with the aperture and ISO set to what I want and manual incident metering enabled, then all I'd need to do is press the green button and the camera would set the appropriate shutter speed.

The only thing I'd ask, before people start diving in and telling me that it's a terrible idea that couldn't possibly work, is that you remember that I use incident metering all the time and I'm well aware of how it works, and of its advantages and limitations.

I can see incident meter capability being a "good thing", I used to use it regularly in my film days. Is/was there not some kind of translucent lens cap or body cap available to do the job? Alternatively, as I remember, an 18% grey card held in front of the camera, though I appreciate this may not be useful for more distant subjects, though maybe as helpful as a built-in device.


As always ... just my thoughts on the subject

[ffking]

1- Astrotracer : only proposed in Pentax SLRs, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II) ; previously and otherwise available with O-GPS-1 add-on module - never used it, though Imight someday

2- Pixel-shift : only on Pentax SLRS, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II ; some other makers produce resolution enhancement via multi-exposure like Olympus and Fuji) - I use it less than I thought I would as I aim for interest more than perfection for the most part - but I'm glad to have it for the instances where I do use it

3- Composition adjustment : only on Pentax SLR, since K-5 - not used it

4- AF precise adjustment : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D - don't use it as much as I should

5- TAV mode : only on Pentax SLR, since K-10D (equiv. to M mode + ISO auto on GR III ; and other brands) - use for wildlife mostly where you want to keep those factores constant - not much otherwise, prefer fully manual or TV or even fully auto, depending on subject

6- Green button : only on Pentax SLR, since MZ series - seldom think of using, but have used on occasions - doesn't generally fit my shootimg style

7- Sensor shake reduction : first on Pentax K-10D (and Minolta 7D) - useful for most hand held walkabout - don't use for macro

8- Effective "all weather"/"weather resistant" sealing : systematic on Pentax SLR, after K-S1 ; and in Pentax new lenses since a few years - rely on it!

9- Pentaprism versus pentamirroir : systematic on Pentax SLR, since K-S1 - happy to have - never used pentamirror though

10- In-body raw development : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D - don't use

11- DNG raw format : first on Pentax, since K-5 (and Leica) - always shoot in DNG

Auto horizon correction useful too

[aslyfox]

did I miss it

I haven't had coffee yet so that is a possibility

and perhaps it isn't as unique as I thought:

the ability of most of the lenses produced by Pentax throughout the film and digital eras to be used on different Pentax Digital Camera Bodies

[reh321]

Hello dear friends,

As far as i can recall, PENTAX DSLR have marked their story and paved their consumer's way in including quite a brunch of innovative features thourough the digital era : let us list the 11 major i have identified ; and please feel free to discuss :

- what kind of use you make of these features ?

- are they really usefull, did they count in your decision to buy PENTAX gear ?

- what your expectations are for the forthcomming PENTAX APS-C "K-2" flagship ?



1- Astrotracer : only proposed in Pentax SLRs, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II) ; previously and otherwise available with O-GPS-1 add-on module

2- Pixel-shift : only on Pentax SLRS, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II ; some other makers produce resolution enhancement via multi-exposure like Olympus and Fuji)

3- Composition adjustment : only on Pentax SLR, since K-5

4- AF precise adjustment : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D

5- TAV mode : only on Pentax SLR, since K-10D (equiv. to M mode + ISO auto on GR III ; and other brands)

6- Green button : only on Pentax SLR, since MZ series

7- Sensor shake reduction : first on Pentax K-10D (and Minolta 7D)

8- Effective "all weather"/"weather resistant" sealing : systematic on Pentax SLR, after K-S1 ; and in Pentax new lenses since a few years

9- Pentaprism versus pentamirroir : systematic on Pentax SLR, since K-S1

10- In-body raw development : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D

11- DNG raw format : first on Pentax, since K-5 (and Leica)



Hopefully, there might be more to come

Do you have any other expectations ?

I use TAv mode all the time; before I used Tv mode, but TAv mode allows me to keep a “comfortable” aperture {keep deep enough DOF}. I am really surprise no one has mentioned the graceful high ISO handling - I must be the only user so far that uses JPEG if at all possible - but TAv mode is useable only because of it {I seldom used TAv mode on my K-30 because I didn’t trust the ISO values that often were called for by the shutter speed and aperture that I preferred}.

I also really like the IBIS and the shutter speeds it allows me to use on non-moving subjects.

I get very little advantage from the other aspects mentioned, other than my willingness to carry my KP when the weather looks threatening - 'WR' is nice}.

[aaacb]

I don't know what I'd do without IBIS, weather resistance, and the nice viewfinder I like having astrotracer, perhaps I would have never attempted taking pictures of stars otherwise, but it's rare that I have the opportunity because I live in a city.

[morenjavi]

Hello dear friends,

1- Astrotracer : only proposed in Pentax SLRs, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II) ; previously and otherwise available with O-GPS-1 add-on module

4- AF precise adjustment : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D

5- TAV mode : only on Pentax SLR, since K-10D (equiv. to M mode + ISO auto on GR III ; and other brands)

11- DNG raw format : first on Pentax, since K-5 (and Leica)


Do you have any other expectations ?

What about in body stabilization ? Now it's not only Pentax exclusive, but Pentax was one of the first to include, and it's a distintive feature.

Astrotracer: Like it, but not used a lot. That is, I like astrophotography, but never have time .
AF precise adjustment. I use a lot.
TAV mode. I use frecuently.
DNG raw format. This feature allows to use RAW files with RAW developers that doesn't support Pentax natively.
Dual SD slot. As other user pointed, very important, I use it to have a backup during a session.

I don't 'use' the other features a lot.

But I'll add a feature that I use a lot, and I have not seen in other makers: control flash TTL compensation with the +/- button, in camera M mode. It's a super useful feature that gives me all the control in Manual mode, for ambient and flash light. In general, Pentax have a lot of shooting modes that gives you great control. Other makers doesn't have so much options.

[ramseybuckeye]

1- Astrotracer : only proposed in Pentax SLRs, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II) ; previously and otherwise available with O-GPS-1 add-on module I do not use since I don't have GPS, but maybe some day

2- Pixel-shift : only on Pentax SLRS, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II ; some other makers produce resolution enhancement via multi-exposure like Olympus and Fuji) I like the ability to be there, and I will use it when Lightroom supports it, Has Lightroom started support yet? (I have Lightroom CC, but prefer to use Lightroom Classic, so I could have missed it being added in an update)

3- Composition adjustment : only on Pentax SLR, since K-5 I have to admit I've never taken the time to use this, but I have to do this.

4- AF precise adjustment : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D . Good feature

5- TAV mode : only on Pentax SLR, since K-10D (equiv. to M mode + ISO auto on GR III ; and other brands) . For certain type of shooting and lighting conditions I use this a lot.

6- Green button : only on Pentax SLR, since MZ series . Very nice to have

7- Sensor shake reduction : first on Pentax K-10D (and Minolta 7D) . An awesome feature, definitely one of the reason I bought into Pentax

8- Effective "all weather"/"weather resistant" sealing : systematic on Pentax SLR, after K-S1 ; and in Pentax new lenses since a few years Another reason I bought into the system, even though it was a few years before I could get a sealed lens. Now I have WR lenses to cover most situations and I use them the most. I may never buy another new lens without weather sealing. I use the weather sealing a lot since I do a lot of outdoor shooting, in rain, snow, cold, and when you have those unexpected rains.

9- Pentaprism versus pentamirroir : systematic on Pentax SLR, since K-S1 . A solid advantage

10- In-body raw development : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D . Never used

11- DNG raw format : first on Pentax, since K-5 (and Leica) This is a plus, an industry standard should always assure compatibility with most software. I know many people don't like Adobe, but they are the industry leader and have a reach into many aspects of imaging.

- what your expectations are for the forthcoming PENTAX APS-C "K-2" flagship ? I'll compare it to the KP which I already have and love. So how could the KP be improved? A built in GPS, Ability to use an infrared remote, GOOD Wifi. I can't think of anything else except more time to shoot.

[Aaron28]

a few years ago when deciding between the K-50 and sony A58(I think) to upgrade my Olympus e-510.....the deciding factors were

astrotracer

built in intervalometer......those were very important as I was getting heavy into star trails and milky way my first passion in pursing I guess would say a technical form of photography which helped me learn a lot as I did not know much of anything

weather sealing

in body SR...which the e-510 had as well

and of course K mount...…….very glad I chose pentax

the green button which was discovered after ownership and is quite handy getting a 'benchmark' exposure when I want or need

reckon I am not advanced enough to say the other features were/are compelling to me

[reh321]

I'll compare it to the KP which I already have and love. So how could the KP be improved? A built in GPS, Ability to use an infrared remote, GOOD Wifi. I can't think of anything else except more time to shoot.

Users here have complained about the KP's buffer {want bigger}, lack of topside LCD, and "small battery" {I advance the shutter count by a few thousand a year; others have reported taking over a thousand photos in a single day}

[panonski]

1- Astrotracer : only proposed in Pentax SLRs, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II) ; previously and otherwise available with O-GPS-1 add-on module -


never used - Astro is not my thing at all - but once I would be maybe intersted - it's there - or halfaway there - because it cannot be used without GPS unit ( built or non built )

2- Pixel-shift : only on Pentax SLRS, since K-3II (K-1, KP, K-1II ; some other makers produce resolution enhancement via multi-exposure like Olympus and Fuji)


never used - But it's a usefull feature for Rela Estate - or Nature Landscape photography, because it add some extra DR - not only more Pixels

3- Composition adjustment : only on Pentax SLR, since K-5

never used - it's something very limited, and I have no idea, how and when to use that.. It literaly moves your sensor - in one direction - to help you out to reach corners. Confusing. Maybe I don't get it right


4- AF precise adjustment : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D

This is a MUST have - Every lens you got, you must calibrate to match best sweet spot. Measurement must be done - with Live View and without Live View. In Live View - you will have Contrast Detection, which is on the sensor, and it's

always correct.
Once you get picture with same sharpnes with OVF with Phase Detection and same with Live View, you're done


5- TAV mode : only on Pentax SLR, since K-10D (equiv. to M mode + ISO auto on GR III ; and other brands)

TAV mode - very usefull to get your exposure - in same levels, without touching apperture ( bokeh ) or speed . With super ISO capabilities - its a must have mode.
Fairly often I use it, since I discovered it.


6- Green button : only on Pentax SLR, since MZ series

Almost never use it. Perhaps to my less experienced level of knowing - what I can done more with my Pentax DSLR

7- Sensor shake reduction : first on Pentax K-10D (and Minolta 7D)

Must have, specially these days, when slowshutterspeed can be done handheld


8- Effective "all weather"/"weather resistant" sealing : systematic on Pentax SLR, after K-S1 ; and in Pentax new lenses since a few years

Nice feature, but not so trustable. I like better sealing, but in my, and some other experiance - it's just have - more than it should be - that sense, when things got broken once, you're on your own.


9- Pentaprism versus pentamirroir : systematic on Pentax SLR, since K-S1

I never seen othing but modern DSLR Pentax, so I can not tell you the difference



10- In-body raw development : first on Pentax SLR, since K-10D

In body development is nice to have. It is actually inbody JPG / DNG editor, with JPG exports. .It's very limited, not intuitive, after adding one change, you actually must save JPG, and edited that one again, to gain the results, for couple

of different changes.

If you have to dark color picture, and you want it to be well exposured B/W - you will first must lift the brightness, save it, and after that again enter to editor, to turn it to BW, and save it again.

So, Very cripled, but nice to have also.



11- DNG raw format : first on Pentax, since K-5 (and Leica)

DNG is a standard in these days - and it helps to jump systems. Never used PEF after onced I've been forced, to convert it to DNG - just to edit it in LightRoom. Annoying. And then Pentax think he is releveant factor on Photography

scene



Hopefully, there might be more to come

Do you have any other expectations ?

Yes. Many