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11-17-2008, 12:48 PM   #46
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Definitely *major* camera shake, not any sort of focus issue at all. Just because you have SR on and/or are using a shutter speed faster than 1 / (focal length * 1.5) doesn't mean you don't also have to hold the camera reasonably still! And the one of the woman standing in the road is only at 1/20" at a focal length of 58mm. That's asking an awful lot of SR no matter how steady you try to hold the camera.

Although the one of the dog isn't actually suffering from *camera* shake as much as it is from *subject* motion. You see the feet are relatively still, but the body is all over the place. 1/30 a second is fast enough for a subject that is *trying* to hold still, but not for one that is moving.

And the church one is indeed just fine. The trees and church are more or less in focus (tough to tell what *exactly* the camera chose to focus on, the fence is way out of focus exactly as one should expect from the relatively shallow DOF one gets at that focal length and aperture. Although I would say the foreground looks rather *oddly* soft to me - the lens appears to be not very good at this focal length / aperture. Or you've got a big smudge on it, or a cheap UV filter (= .image degrading filter) attached.

As for the color, well it looks like an overcast day, and of course, since the sky is such a big part of most of these pictures (and the white dog on another), the ground is relatively underexposed by comparison, exactly as should be expected.

So to my eye, there's nothing wrong here that wouldn't be fixed by a faster shutter speed, a steadier hand, a cleaning of the front of your lens, and perhaps some positive exposure compensation if you want the foreground brighter (at the expense of blowing out the highlights, of course).

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Thks for your replies.
Could you tell me why i NEVER had such blurred pictures with my ds?
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QuoteOriginally posted by mapov Quote
Thks for your replies.
Could you tell me why i NEVER had such blurred pictures with my ds?
No, we can't. There is just one thing, which I know from my own experience: With a new piece of kit, I tend to go out and shoot - and often forget, being so excited with the new kit, the basics. It is a regular occurance for me, to produce blurred pics, whenever I try a new lens or camera body, because I shoot at dawn or under heavily overcast sky, just to use it. I have learned to discard these test shots...

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QuoteOriginally posted by mapov Quote
Thks for your replies.
Could you tell me why i NEVER had such blurred pictures with my ds?
Hard to say. Maybe you used tended to use it more in Green mode or some other mode where that camera was smart enough to choose a faster shutter speed that eliminated shake for you? The DS is also a smaller/lighter camera - maybe you also just held it more securely?

It is also possible - not likely, but *possible* - that something is terribly wrong with your SR, and it is actually *causing* rather than eliminating shake. Some test pictures with and without SR would be interesting.

But whatever the reason, those pictures are *obviously* suffering from camera shake, not focus issues.

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Marc, same lens, same focal with the ds.


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With the ds too and the same Takumar F Zoom 28-80 3,5-4,5


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The same, focal maximum


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11-17-2008, 07:27 PM   #53
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QuoteOriginally posted by mapov Quote
Marc, same lens, same focal with the ds
Yes, these look just like the church picture with teh K10D - no camera shake at all. Although the church picture definitely had some major flare issues - probably your angle relative to the sun played into it too.

Look, I can't tell you why you didn't have so many problems with camera shake on your DS. But there is *no way* the problems with the pictures you posted from your K10D could *possibly* be anything *but* camera shake. The "looks" of camera shake and being out of focus are totally different, and your pictures are just textbook examples of the camera shake look. There is no just *no possible way* those are *not* blurry form shake, and this is *obvious* just from looking at them.

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For me, the pictures taken with both cameras are clearly not the sames, and the ones taken with the k10 were awfull.

I've change it and the pictures with the new one don't present this blur or whatever...





I have to try again daylight.

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