Help, my thumb has a mind of its own

Paul the Sunman · 07-05-2020, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

any way to set up the camera so my thumb can't screw me up ?

Remove the button ... or the thumb.

dbs · 07-05-2020, 05:42 PM

Hi Sly

Maybe run all your cameras in 'M' mode, that way the thumb is too busy having to do the right things, its then too tired to be mischievous.

Dave

**rogerstg** · 07-05-2020, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

Joby UltraFit Hand Strap with UltraPlate . . .

thumb on the back

Maybe that's your problem.

**aslyfox** · 07-05-2020, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by rogerstg

Maybe that's your problem.

just one of many, I afraid

MarkJerling · 07-05-2020, 06:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Which body?

Allen's!

**UncleVanya** · 07-05-2020, 07:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Allen's!

Facepalm...

**aslyfox** · 07-05-2020, 07:45 PM - **1 Like**

with that

its time for me to say " good night everybody "

You Tube

**Rondec** · 07-06-2020, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by aslyfox

with that

its time for me to say " good night everybody "

YouTube

Maybe you should just say "Good night, Gracie..."

**aslyfox** · 07-06-2020, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Maybe you should just say "Good night, Gracie..."

but the video doesn't end that way

**hjoseph7** · 07-06-2020, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by aslyfox

from time to time, my thumb has a mind of its own and changes the setting of my camera without my knowledge

so I set the camera for " natural " and start taking photos

as I do so, my thumb might choose " monochrome "

as I discover later

any way to set up the camera so my thumb can't screw me up ?

Your thumb must be very busy. It takes 9 clicks of the 4-way controller to get from Natural to Monochrome. It takes(at least) two clicks (one click to activate the Custom Setting Menu) (two clicks to select a "Picture Style" such as natural, bright, monochrome, etc.) It could be that after you select a Picture Style, you are not hitting the 'OK/Set' button so the camera reverses to the last Picture Style/finishing touch you used. I use to do that all the time....

**aslyfox** · 07-06-2020, 06:56 AM - **2 Likes**

here is the plain truth

my thumb is being corrupted by my wife's Japanese Chin [ who was corrupted by my wife's evil cat ]

the Chin is also trying to corrupt my new German Shepard puppy

" that's the truth "

You Tube

**Crooski** · 07-06-2020, 10:41 AM - **1 Like**

With the KP you can lock and unlock the four-way controller. by assigning this function to a button C3 item 17 and choose type 1 or type 2, type 2 is FOUR-WAY CONTROLLER / OK / and MENU
Under BUTTON CUSTOMIZATION I assigned this function to FX1 button (Yellow padlock). Press FX1 and lock or unlock with the rear wheel

It is worth trying this out, good luck

**mattb123** · 07-06-2020, 11:01 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

You can dedicate a User mode on your top dial to lock down all the colours and other settings.
Then at least your index finger has to work as an accomplices to achieve the thumb's conniving goals

Perhaps?

This is what I do and it's the best solution IMO. I have user modes set for my most common scenarios with everything set just how I like for Action, Landscape, Manual glass, and Astro.
I also use the RAW format just in case (or RAW to one card and jpeg to another so I have a fallback if the jpeg is bad). The key to the user mode technique is turning the camera off between shooting sessions so it reverts to the preset when you power up. Or conversely if you have changed settings intentionally since the last power cycle, leave it powered on to preserve those changes.

**gaweidert** · 07-06-2020, 11:39 AM

Hey Allen, I have the same problem too. If I am not careful TAv mode can become a real adventure for me. Easy to spin those little wheels. I have yet to find a cure for it as I had the same issue going back to my K5 days.

Remember when we were at Artist Paint Pots in Yellowstone in 2018. I shot a whole series of the grey mud pots at the top of the trail and they turned out like the top photo. Fortunately I caught it before going much further. The K1 has an awesome dynamic range and I was able to save the photos in post processing. One of the reasons that I always shoot RAW.

**aslyfox** · 07-06-2020, 11:43 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gaweidert

Hey Allen, I have the same problem too. If I am not careful TAv mode can become a real adventure for me. Easy to spin those little wheels. I have yet to find a cure for it as I had the same issue going back to my K5 days.

Remember when we were at Artist Paint Pots in Yellowstone in 2018. I shot a whole series of the grey mud pots at the top of the trail and they turned out like the top photo. Fortunately I caught it before going much further. The K1 has an awesome dynamic range and I was able to save the photos in post processing. One of the reasons that I always shoot RAW.

that was a great experience

______________________

I want to thank all who have responded

with serious and not so serious suggestions

have fun folks and stay safe

07-06-2020, 05:10 AM	#25
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,047	Originally posted by aslyfox from time to time, my thumb has a mind of its own and changes the setting of my camera without my knowledge so I set the camera for " natural " and start taking photos as I do so, my thumb might choose " monochrome " as I discover later any way to set up the camera so my thumb can't screw me up ? Your thumb must be very busy. It takes 9 clicks of the 4-way controller to get from Natural to Monochrome. It takes(at least) two clicks (one click to activate the Custom Setting Menu) (two clicks to select a "Picture Style" such as natural, bright, monochrome, etc.) It could be that after you select a Picture Style, you are not hitting the 'OK/Set' button so the camera reverses to the last Picture Style/finishing touch you used. I use to do that all the time.... Last edited by hjoseph7; 07-06-2020 at 05:24 AM.

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07-05-2020, 05:20 PM	#16
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by aslyfox any way to set up the camera so my thumb can't screw me up ? Remove the button ... or the thumb.

07-05-2020, 05:42 PM	#17
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	Hi Sly Maybe run all your cameras in 'M' mode, that way the thumb is too busy having to do the right things, its then too tired to be mischievous. Dave

07-05-2020, 06:14 PM	#18
rogerstg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 1,168	Originally posted by aslyfox Joby UltraFit Hand Strap with UltraPlate . . . thumb on the back Maybe that's your problem.

07-05-2020, 06:52 PM	#19
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581 Original Poster	Originally posted by rogerstg Maybe that's your problem. just one of many, I afraid

07-05-2020, 06:54 PM - 1 Like	#20
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by UncleVanya Which body? Allen's!

07-05-2020, 07:21 PM - 1 Like	#21
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,404	Originally posted by MarkJerling Allen's! Facepalm...

07-06-2020, 03:12 AM	#23
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by aslyfox with that its time for me to say " good night everybody " YouTube Maybe you should just say "Good night, Gracie..."

07-06-2020, 03:20 AM	#24
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rondec Maybe you should just say "Good night, Gracie..." but the video doesn't end that way

07-06-2020, 10:41 AM - 1 Like	#27
Crooski Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Rozenburg , Zuid-Holland Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,681	With the KP you can lock and unlock the four-way controller. by assigning this function to a button C3 item 17 and choose type 1 or type 2, type 2 is FOUR-WAY CONTROLLER / OK / and MENU Under BUTTON CUSTOMIZATION I assigned this function to FX1 button (Yellow padlock). Press FX1 and lock or unlock with the rear wheel It is worth trying this out, good luck

07-06-2020, 11:01 AM - 1 Like	#28
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,872	Originally posted by FozzFoster You can dedicate a User mode on your top dial to lock down all the colours and other settings. Then at least your index finger has to work as an accomplices to achieve the thumb's conniving goals Perhaps? This is what I do and it's the best solution IMO. I have user modes set for my most common scenarios with everything set just how I like for Action, Landscape, Manual glass, and Astro. I also use the RAW format just in case (or RAW to one card and jpeg to another so I have a fallback if the jpeg is bad). The key to the user mode technique is turning the camera off between shooting sessions so it reverts to the preset when you power up. Or conversely if you have changed settings intentionally since the last power cycle, leave it powered on to preserve those changes.

07-06-2020, 11:43 AM - 2 Likes	#30
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581 Original Poster	Originally posted by gaweidert Hey Allen, I have the same problem too. If I am not careful TAv mode can become a real adventure for me. Easy to spin those little wheels. I have yet to find a cure for it as I had the same issue going back to my K5 days. Remember when we were at Artist Paint Pots in Yellowstone in 2018. I shot a whole series of the grey mud pots at the top of the trail and they turned out like the top photo. Fortunately I caught it before going much further. The K1 has an awesome dynamic range and I was able to save the photos in post processing. One of the reasons that I always shoot RAW. that was a great experience ______________________ I want to thank all who have responded with serious and not so serious suggestions have fun folks and stay safe