The CCD Sensor Cult. I mean Club...

**hjortron** · 11-27-2022, 02:12 PM - **7 Likes**

DPReview announced Aug 4, 1997 - yep, four years before 9/11, eleven years before Lehman Brothers bankruptcy... and still works (with some minor problems). My first and oldest digital camera with a 1/3" CCD sensor.

SOOC jpegs just taken by the camera (don't try finding an EXIF info - it didn't exist back then).

junkbench · 11-27-2022, 04:31 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

thank you - I've never used an F-mount camera and discovered that I have several pre-AI lenses that will not work on this camera....

Oh yeah, gotta be real careful with them, no allowance for the metering tab, they'll ruin the cam, glad yours did!. Will be interesting to compare the mighty 645D to the S5, how is the shooting experience?

---------- Post added 11-27-22 at 04:32 PM ----------

Originally posted by hjortron

DPReview announced Aug 4, 1997 - yep, four years before 9/11, eleven years before Lehman Brothers bankruptcy... and still works (with some minor problems). My first and oldest digital camera with a 1/3" CCD sensor.

SOOC jpegs just taken by the camera (don't try finding an EXIF info - it didn't exist back then).

That is a really neat blast from the past, I dunno if mine is a CCD or not but I have an ancient HP photosmart cam of a similar vintage and I tried it recently and it still works too!.

**pepperberry farm** · 11-27-2022, 05:27 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by junkbench

Oh yeah, gotta be real careful with them, no allowance for the metering tab, they'll ruin the cam, glad yours did!. Will be interesting to compare the mighty 645D to the S5, how is the shooting experience?

the 645D sensor is just better all around than the S5; the shooting experience is pretty much a normal DSLR; similar to my K-5IIs or K-3, but also much better than the K10D I had a while back...

Ivan · 11-28-2022, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by hjortron

DPReview announced Aug 4, 1997 - yep, four years before 9/11, eleven years before Lehman Brothers bankruptcy... and still works (with some minor problems). My first and oldest digital camera with a 1/3" CCD sensor.

SOOC jpegs just taken by the camera (don't try finding an EXIF info - it didn't exist back then).

It’s wonderful, but apparently you can’t get good, colorful photos from her? I have no experience with such ancient cameras.

**pepperberry farm** · 11-28-2022, 04:58 AM - **4 Likes**

Fuji S5 Pro with MC Mir-24N

**pepperberry farm** · 11-28-2022, 05:00 AM - **9 Likes**

Fuji S5 Pro

**paulh** · 11-28-2022, 09:15 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by junkbench

That is a really neat blast from the past, I dunno if mine is a CCD or not but I have an ancient HP photosmart cam of a similar vintage and I tried it recently and it still works too!.

I have a still-working HP Photosmart C20 camera I bought in 1999. It has a 2/3" one megapixel CCD sensor.

https://productz.com/en/hp-photosmart-c20/p/3BN1

A couple photos, both with some PP.

Last edited by paulh; 11-28-2022 at 09:36 AM.

SpruceBruce · 11-28-2022, 10:05 AM - **11 Likes**

Minolta 7D & Quantaray 50mm F/2.8 Macro Tech 10, which apparently is a rebadged Sigma 50mm Macro lens sold by Ritz camera, I stumbled upon this lens at my local shop in Minneapolis for $40. Awesome budget find

**samir_m** · 11-28-2022, 01:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by SpruceBruce

Minolta 7D & Quantaray 50mm F/2.8 Macro Tech 10, which apparently is a rebadged Sigma 50mm Macro lens sold by Ritz camera, I stumbled upon this lens at my local shop in Minneapolis for $40. Awesome budget find

so beautiful colors

Ivan · 11-29-2022, 12:49 AM - **1 Like**

Early digital photography, silent horror). It reminds me of the appearance of the first photo opportunities in phones. Minolta is good.

**pepperberry farm** · 11-29-2022, 04:57 AM - **6 Likes**

Fuji S5 Pro with MC Mir-24N

**paulh** · 11-29-2022, 09:47 AM - **3 Likes**

Super Tak 105/2.8 on K10D

**Wiltshireborn** · 11-29-2022, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

I wish for it too... the same pixel density of a K10D/K200D would give 24MP in a full frame camera. And the same pixel density on a 44x33cm gives the 40MP that the 645D has.

But 10MP is plenty to work with, I find. I'm stunned at the level of detail sometimes that I get with my K10D and K200D. They say 7-8MP (perhaps even 6?) is what the human eye can resolve when seeing an image as a whole (without pixel peeping).

I find that textures and color transitions are so much more detailed when looking at a CCD picture... perhaps it's as Photoptimist said, a Consummate Color Detector

K10D and DA 35 Limited:

But it's more than a color capturing device (CCD!)... it's also the ultimate tool for capturing black and white... at least for me!

Stunning photos, I love the black and white one of the boats. I had a K10D and a K20D once but sold them for a K3, I am tempted to get another K20D now!

SpruceBruce · 11-29-2022, 11:48 AM - **10 Likes**

More Minolta 7D & Quantaray 50mm F/2.8 Macro Tech 10 shots

junkbench · 11-29-2022, 06:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by SpruceBruce

More Minolta 7D & Quantaray 50mm F/2.8 Macro Tech 10 shots

Excellent results, just goes to show you don't need the latest and greatest to take some fantastic photos.

11-27-2022, 02:12 PM - 7 Likes	#2626
hjortron Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: The very centre of Europe Posts: 908	Epson PhotoPC 600 - 25 Years Old! DPReview announced Aug 4, 1997 - yep, four years before 9/11, eleven years before Lehman Brothers bankruptcy... and still works (with some minor problems). My first and oldest digital camera with a 1/3" CCD sensor. SOOC jpegs just taken by the camera (don't try finding an EXIF info - it didn't exist back then).

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junkbench Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 115	Originally posted by pepperberry farm thank you - I've never used an F-mount camera and discovered that I have several pre-AI lenses that will not work on this camera.... Oh yeah, gotta be real careful with them, no allowance for the metering tab, they'll ruin the cam, glad yours did!. Will be interesting to compare the mighty 645D to the S5, how is the shooting experience? ---------- Post added 11-27-22 at 04:32 PM ---------- Originally posted by hjortron DPReview announced Aug 4, 1997 - yep, four years before 9/11, eleven years before Lehman Brothers bankruptcy... and still works (with some minor problems). My first and oldest digital camera with a 1/3" CCD sensor. SOOC jpegs just taken by the camera (don't try finding an EXIF info - it didn't exist back then). That is a really neat blast from the past, I dunno if mine is a CCD or not but I have an ancient HP photosmart cam of a similar vintage and I tried it recently and it still works too!.

11-27-2022, 05:27 PM - 2 Likes	#2628
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,679	Originally posted by junkbench Oh yeah, gotta be real careful with them, no allowance for the metering tab, they'll ruin the cam, glad yours did!. Will be interesting to compare the mighty 645D to the S5, how is the shooting experience? the 645D sensor is just better all around than the S5; the shooting experience is pretty much a normal DSLR; similar to my K-5IIs or K-3, but also much better than the K10D I had a while back...

11-28-2022, 02:12 AM	#2629
Ivan Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Moscow Posts: 639	Originally posted by hjortron DPReview announced Aug 4, 1997 - yep, four years before 9/11, eleven years before Lehman Brothers bankruptcy... and still works (with some minor problems). My first and oldest digital camera with a 1/3" CCD sensor. SOOC jpegs just taken by the camera (don't try finding an EXIF info - it didn't exist back then). It’s wonderful, but apparently you can’t get good, colorful photos from her? I have no experience with such ancient cameras.

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paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,273	Originally posted by junkbench That is a really neat blast from the past, I dunno if mine is a CCD or not but I have an ancient HP photosmart cam of a similar vintage and I tried it recently and it still works too!. I have a still-working HP Photosmart C20 camera I bought in 1999. It has a 2/3" one megapixel CCD sensor. https://productz.com/en/hp-photosmart-c20/p/3BN1 A couple photos, both with some PP. Last edited by paulh; 11-28-2022 at 09:36 AM.

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11-29-2022, 12:49 AM - 1 Like	#2635
Ivan Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Moscow Posts: 639	Early digital photography, silent horror). It reminds me of the appearance of the first photo opportunities in phones. Minolta is good.

11-29-2022, 04:57 AM - 6 Likes	#2636
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11-29-2022, 11:35 AM	#2638
Wiltshireborn Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Devizes, Wiltshire. England Posts: 126	Originally posted by ChristianRock I wish for it too... the same pixel density of a K10D/K200D would give 24MP in a full frame camera. And the same pixel density on a 44x33cm gives the 40MP that the 645D has. But 10MP is plenty to work with, I find. I'm stunned at the level of detail sometimes that I get with my K10D and K200D. They say 7-8MP (perhaps even 6?) is what the human eye can resolve when seeing an image as a whole (without pixel peeping). I find that textures and color transitions are so much more detailed when looking at a CCD picture... perhaps it's as Photoptimist said, a Consummate Color Detector K10D and DA 35 Limited: But it's more than a color capturing device (CCD!)... it's also the ultimate tool for capturing black and white... at least for me! Stunning photos, I love the black and white one of the boats. I had a K10D and a K20D once but sold them for a K3, I am tempted to get another K20D now!

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junkbench Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 115	Originally posted by SpruceBruce More Minolta 7D & Quantaray 50mm F/2.8 Macro Tech 10 shots Excellent results, just goes to show you don't need the latest and greatest to take some fantastic photos.