The CCD Sensor Cult. I mean Club...

ChristianRock · 06-29-2022, 07:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jschoonj

That's an interesting thought. I never heard about that thinner color filter. Do you have some reading on that?

There's been some discussions about this here and in other forums... if you're bored, you can look at this one, for example... CCD and CMOS colour: Photographic Science and Technology Forum: Digital Photography Review

Some even claim that it's a foregone conclusion that it's just the filters and not the CCD vs CMOS technology that makes this difference in colors from older vs newer sensors, but I don't think it's that simple...

**paulh** · 06-29-2022, 09:52 AM - **8 Likes**

Lumix LX3

**hjortron** · 06-29-2022, 10:01 AM - **7 Likes**

K2000/K-m + DAL 18-55, photographed 2009/07 beyond the Arctic Circle

**ryan_bien** · 06-29-2022, 10:03 AM - **7 Likes**

picked up a k10d from japan for $80 shipped so I could join in on the fun. 55mm 2.0 SMC takumar m42 lens here

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henkvanzuylen · 06-29-2022, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

There's been some discussions about this here and in other forums... if you're bored, you can look at this one, for example... CCD and CMOS colour: Photographic Science and Technology Forum: Digital Photography Review

Some even claim that it's a foregone conclusion that it's just the filters and not the CCD vs CMOS technology that makes this difference in colors from older vs newer sensors, but I don't think it's that simple...

Is it possible that a Nikon D700 lacks that type of filter?
The colors straight out my Nikon are beautiful as well i must say

ChristianRock · 06-29-2022, 01:19 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by henkvanzuylen

Is it possible that a Nikon D700 lacks that type of filter?
The colors straight out my Nikon are beautiful as well i must say

No, it's that the older filters gave more pleasing colors (I refrain from using accurate because a lot of times that is down to processing). To do that, the filters absorbed more of the light, before the light hit the sensor. The D700 is definitely part of the era.

But like I said, while some say "it's just the filters in front of the sensor", from what little I know, that's over-simplistic. There's a lot of factors including pixel size, sensor technology (CMOS, MOS, CCD), and even the placement of the sensor processors, reducing signal path (Pentax is supposedly amazing at this by the way, which explains why Pentax cameras test better than others that use the same sensors).

tuco · 06-29-2022, 05:11 PM - **7 Likes**

PowerShot TX1 @ 13.5mm

Box-O-Stuff by tuco, on Flickr

**pepperberry farm** · 06-29-2022, 07:38 PM - **9 Likes**

645D + SMC A 645 120mm f4 Macro

**paulh** · 06-29-2022, 07:58 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

645D + SMC A 645 120mm f4 Macro

Incredible colors!

**pepperberry farm** · 06-29-2022, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by paulh

Incredible colors!

thank you...

**pepperberry farm** · 06-30-2022, 03:54 AM - **9 Likes**

645D + SMC A 645 200mm f4

tuco · 06-30-2022, 09:05 AM - **5 Likes**

Trying out the wide end of this camera's zoom at 6.5mm (equiv. 39mm). I have yet to test it's full zoom at 65mm (equiv. 390mm). But for a 2007 era point-n-shoot camera I think it has pretty good lens and it's stabilized too.

Karate Monkey by tuco, on Flickr

PowerShot TX1

henkvanzuylen · 06-30-2022, 10:58 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

645D + SMC A 645 200mm f4

The second capture is briljant!

---------- Post added 06-30-22 at 07:59 PM ----------

Originally posted by tuco

Trying out the wide end of this camera's zoom at 6.5mm (equiv. 39mm). I have yet to test it's full zoom at 65mm (equiv. 390mm). But for a 2007 era point-n-shoot camera I think it has pretty good lens and it's stabilized too.

Karate Monkey by tuco, on Flickr

PowerShot TX1

Great shots you get from that little Canon!

**paulh** · 06-30-2022, 11:03 AM - **5 Likes**

Quantaray 28-80 on *ist D

**pepperberry farm** · 06-30-2022, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by henkvanzuylen

The second capture is briljant!

thank you - these shots were over my head, probably about 25' in the air....

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06-29-2022, 07:51 AM - 1 Like	#2011
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910 Original Poster	Originally posted by jschoonj That's an interesting thought. I never heard about that thinner color filter. Do you have some reading on that? There's been some discussions about this here and in other forums... if you're bored, you can look at this one, for example... CCD and CMOS colour: Photographic Science and Technology Forum: Digital Photography Review Some even claim that it's a foregone conclusion that it's just the filters and not the CCD vs CMOS technology that makes this difference in colors from older vs newer sensors, but I don't think it's that simple...

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henkvanzuylen Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands, 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 457	Originally posted by ChristianRock There's been some discussions about this here and in other forums... if you're bored, you can look at this one, for example... CCD and CMOS colour: Photographic Science and Technology Forum: Digital Photography Review Some even claim that it's a foregone conclusion that it's just the filters and not the CCD vs CMOS technology that makes this difference in colors from older vs newer sensors, but I don't think it's that simple... Is it possible that a Nikon D700 lacks that type of filter? The colors straight out my Nikon are beautiful as well i must say

06-29-2022, 01:19 PM - 2 Likes	#2016
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910 Original Poster	Originally posted by henkvanzuylen Is it possible that a Nikon D700 lacks that type of filter? The colors straight out my Nikon are beautiful as well i must say No, it's that the older filters gave more pleasing colors (I refrain from using accurate because a lot of times that is down to processing). To do that, the filters absorbed more of the light, before the light hit the sensor. The D700 is definitely part of the era. But like I said, while some say "it's just the filters in front of the sensor", from what little I know, that's over-simplistic. There's a lot of factors including pixel size, sensor technology (CMOS, MOS, CCD), and even the placement of the sensor processors, reducing signal path (Pentax is supposedly amazing at this by the way, which explains why Pentax cameras test better than others that use the same sensors).

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paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,263	Originally posted by pepperberry farm 645D + SMC A 645 120mm f4 Macro Incredible colors!

06-29-2022, 09:32 PM	#2020
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,677	Originally posted by paulh Incredible colors! thank you...

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06-30-2022, 09:05 AM - 5 Likes	#2022
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Trying out the wide end of this camera's zoom at 6.5mm (equiv. 39mm). I have yet to test it's full zoom at 65mm (equiv. 390mm). But for a 2007 era point-n-shoot camera I think it has pretty good lens and it's stabilized too. Karate Monkey by tuco, on Flickr PowerShot TX1

06-30-2022, 10:58 AM - 1 Like	#2023
henkvanzuylen Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands, 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 457	Originally posted by pepperberry farm 645D + SMC A 645 200mm f4 The second capture is briljant! ---------- Post added 06-30-22 at 07:59 PM ---------- Originally posted by tuco Trying out the wide end of this camera's zoom at 6.5mm (equiv. 39mm). I have yet to test it's full zoom at 65mm (equiv. 390mm). But for a 2007 era point-n-shoot camera I think it has pretty good lens and it's stabilized too. Karate Monkey by tuco, on Flickr PowerShot TX1 Great shots you get from that little Canon!

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06-30-2022, 11:30 AM	#2025
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,677	Originally posted by henkvanzuylen The second capture is briljant! thank you - these shots were over my head, probably about 25' in the air....