how dangerous is the K 1 and K 1 II

**Wheatridger** · 08-19-2020, 02:11 PM

Keep your Rocky Mountain plans loose for now. There are four big fires in the state right now, and one of them is five miles from the park's eastern edge. In Denver, we haven't seen truly clear skies for over a week, and it's hot as heck everywhere. That might change, but we're headed into our driest couple of months. Bottom line: it ain't pretty here...

**TedH42** · 08-19-2020, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

I am considering renting one or the other for a trip to Rocky Mountain National Park in early September

Do pay attention to the wildfire situation, both near RMNP (Cameron Peak Fire, 16,000 acres) and the smoke/haze from fires further away (such as the 125,000 acre Pine Gulch Fire).

Visitor’s Center On Trail Ridge Road Closed Due To Smoke From Cameron Peak Fire – CBS Denver

These fires are little contained, with little rain expected in the next 2 weeks. They have been burning quite long and well (for them), and are pumping out a lot of smoke. Things could get better, or much worse. There are currently closures in desirable parts of the park. Reservations are required, of course.

I wish you a good trip.

**aslyfox** · 08-19-2020, 02:14 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TedH42

Do pay attention to the wildfire situation, both near RMNP (Cameron Peak Fire, 16,000 acres) and the smoke/haze from fires further away (such as the 125,000 acre Pine Gulch Fire).

Visitor’s Center On Trail Ridge Road Closed Due To Smoke From Cameron Peak Fire – CBS Denver

These fires are little contained, with little rain expected in the next 2 weeks. They have been burning quite long and well (for them), and are pumping out a lot of smoke. Things could get better, or much worse. There are currently closures in desirable parts of the park. Reservations are required, of course.

I wish you a good trip.

thanks for the information

we are scheduled to be in Estes Park from 9/10 until 9/15 so hopefully it will be better

we already have reservations for each day

Wheatfield · 08-19-2020, 02:54 PM - **1 Like**

FWIW, I bought a K1 the day it was made available. Actually, IIRC, I picked mine up about a week prior to it being available. Anyway, I kept my K3 for both back up purposes and for the rare occasions when I wanted to extend my telephoto lenses a bit.
I've used my K3 exactly once since late April 2016 when I wanted to extend my 600mm lens.
The K1 gives much nicer pictures.

alamo5000 · 08-19-2020, 03:17 PM

Regarding the camera itself I have carried a variety of (Pentax) cameras and I would say it really depends. My biggest recollection is that in low light you will absolutely want a full frame. It literally opens up a ton of doors to be honest but it tends to shine when conditions are not exactly ideal. At the end of the day if you are shooting in 'daylight' conditions you can use whatever assuming you use a quality lens or two. Also once you start using the right full frame lenses I would say you are definitely on a slippery slope.

MarkJerling · 08-19-2020, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

"How dangerous is it?"

Very! You won't want to give the rental back!

dbs · 08-19-2020, 03:36 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Very! You won't want to give the rental back!

More so Sly has gone and bought one.!

Dave

**Wheatridger** · 08-19-2020, 03:59 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

Invest heavily in APS-C lenses and you will make it economically unfeasible to move to FF. Problem solved

Though I'm reasonably young, fit and in good shape (reasonably...) the biggest problem with FF is the size and weight. I increasingly value the ability to have a camera that I can take anywhere with me, won't weigh me down and will be quick and nimble to use. Even the K-3 is too big and heavy for that purpose, so I use Fujifilm cameras which are perfect. Perhaps a FF mirrorless would fit the bill, if ever anyone makes such a system that appeals to me, but certainly a FF DSLR would be out of the question.

The grass is always greener...

On the contrary, I was quite happy for a few years using my FF K-1 with very small F-series lenses, including the 35-70, the 24-50 and the tiny, slow 80-200. Later, I added the 28-105 which is not that big, but my personal lens road map has no place for those beefy 2.8 zooms. Except for the DA 50-135, a masterpiece that keeps one of my feet in the crop camp.

noelpolar · 08-19-2020, 04:31 PM - **2 Likes**

A little down the road, I expect a new thread from you titled.... "All the K1 owners were right all along" ..........

**aslyfox** · 08-19-2020, 04:37 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by noelpolar

A little down the road, I expect a new thread from you titled.... "All the K1 owners were right all along" ..........

not sure I'm up to starting another thread

**mikesbike** · 08-19-2020, 04:45 PM

The K-1 II would be the better choice to rent, in order to realize the best outcome for low light performance from a FF camera. Among your list of FF glass, the tele lens group might possibly serve you better on your K-3 II (except for higher ISO use), but your FA 43mm f/1.9 will serve you a whole new ballgame! It is one of several of my lenses causing me to at least cast an eye in the direction of a FF body. Your Sigma 24mm lens will also provide a wider angle, and with your Japanese 28mm f/2 you will then actually have a fast WA lens! So your interest in a FF body has good rationale.

But the forthcoming APS-C K-new might very well bring performance even closer to that of FF in terms of IQ and low noise.

swanlefitte · 08-19-2020, 04:51 PM

Where is the danger in starting a thread about the danger of a K1? Well there you go down the rabbit hole. Money already gone.

**James also** · 08-19-2020, 05:24 PM

Welcome into the light. I have never looked back with doubt since purchasing the K1. There are some annoying little quirks with buttons being in the same place but for different uses. Once retrained, not a problem.

Enjoy

MarkJerling · 08-19-2020, 06:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by dbs

More so Sly has gone and bought one.!

Dave

Ah well, it's all downhill from there!

MarkJerling · 08-19-2020, 06:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aslyfox

not sure I'm up to starting another thread

Congrats on your purchase Allen. I'm sure you won't regret it.

08-19-2020, 02:14 PM - 1 Like	#48
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582 Original Poster	Originally posted by TedH42 Do pay attention to the wildfire situation, both near RMNP (Cameron Peak Fire, 16,000 acres) and the smoke/haze from fires further away (such as the 125,000 acre Pine Gulch Fire). Visitor’s Center On Trail Ridge Road Closed Due To Smoke From Cameron Peak Fire – CBS Denver These fires are little contained, with little rain expected in the next 2 weeks. They have been burning quite long and well (for them), and are pumping out a lot of smoke. Things could get better, or much worse. There are currently closures in desirable parts of the park. Reservations are required, of course. I wish you a good trip. thanks for the information we are scheduled to be in Estes Park from 9/10 until 9/15 so hopefully it will be better we already have reservations for each day Last edited by aslyfox; 08-19-2020 at 02:22 PM.

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08-19-2020, 02:11 PM	#46
Wheatridger Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Colorado Front Range Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 644	Keep your Rocky Mountain plans loose for now. There are four big fires in the state right now, and one of them is five miles from the park's eastern edge. In Denver, we haven't seen truly clear skies for over a week, and it's hot as heck everywhere. That might change, but we're headed into our driest couple of months. Bottom line: it ain't pretty here...

08-19-2020, 02:12 PM	#47
TedH42 F/8 & Somewhere Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,412	Originally posted by aslyfox I am considering renting one or the other for a trip to Rocky Mountain National Park in early September Do pay attention to the wildfire situation, both near RMNP (Cameron Peak Fire, 16,000 acres) and the smoke/haze from fires further away (such as the 125,000 acre Pine Gulch Fire). Visitor’s Center On Trail Ridge Road Closed Due To Smoke From Cameron Peak Fire – CBS Denver These fires are little contained, with little rain expected in the next 2 weeks. They have been burning quite long and well (for them), and are pumping out a lot of smoke. Things could get better, or much worse. There are currently closures in desirable parts of the park. Reservations are required, of course. I wish you a good trip.

08-19-2020, 02:54 PM - 1 Like	#49
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	FWIW, I bought a K1 the day it was made available. Actually, IIRC, I picked mine up about a week prior to it being available. Anyway, I kept my K3 for both back up purposes and for the rare occasions when I wanted to extend my telephoto lenses a bit. I've used my K3 exactly once since late April 2016 when I wanted to extend my 600mm lens. The K1 gives much nicer pictures.

08-19-2020, 03:17 PM	#50
alamo5000 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,962	Regarding the camera itself I have carried a variety of (Pentax) cameras and I would say it really depends. My biggest recollection is that in low light you will absolutely want a full frame. It literally opens up a ton of doors to be honest but it tends to shine when conditions are not exactly ideal. At the end of the day if you are shooting in 'daylight' conditions you can use whatever assuming you use a quality lens or two. Also once you start using the right full frame lenses I would say you are definitely on a slippery slope.

08-19-2020, 03:20 PM	#51
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,408	Originally posted by aslyfox "How dangerous is it?" Very! You won't want to give the rental back!

08-19-2020, 03:36 PM - 2 Likes	#52
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,564	Originally posted by MarkJerling Very! You won't want to give the rental back! More so Sly has gone and bought one.! Dave

08-19-2020, 03:59 PM - 1 Like	#53
Wheatridger Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Colorado Front Range Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 644	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac Invest heavily in APS-C lenses and you will make it economically unfeasible to move to FF. Problem solved Though I'm reasonably young, fit and in good shape (reasonably...) the biggest problem with FF is the size and weight. I increasingly value the ability to have a camera that I can take anywhere with me, won't weigh me down and will be quick and nimble to use. Even the K-3 is too big and heavy for that purpose, so I use Fujifilm cameras which are perfect. Perhaps a FF mirrorless would fit the bill, if ever anyone makes such a system that appeals to me, but certainly a FF DSLR would be out of the question. The grass is always greener... On the contrary, I was quite happy for a few years using my FF K-1 with very small F-series lenses, including the 35-70, the 24-50 and the tiny, slow 80-200. Later, I added the 28-105 which is not that big, but my personal lens road map has no place for those beefy 2.8 zooms. Except for the DA 50-135, a masterpiece that keeps one of my feet in the crop camp.

08-19-2020, 04:31 PM - 2 Likes	#54
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	A little down the road, I expect a new thread from you titled.... "All the K1 owners were right all along" ..........

08-19-2020, 04:37 PM - 1 Like	#55
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582 Original Poster	Originally posted by noelpolar A little down the road, I expect a new thread from you titled.... "All the K1 owners were right all along" .......... not sure I'm up to starting another thread

08-19-2020, 04:45 PM	#56
mikesbike Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Southeastern Michigan Posts: 4,558	The K-1 II would be the better choice to rent, in order to realize the best outcome for low light performance from a FF camera. Among your list of FF glass, the tele lens group might possibly serve you better on your K-3 II (except for higher ISO use), but your FA 43mm f/1.9 will serve you a whole new ballgame! It is one of several of my lenses causing me to at least cast an eye in the direction of a FF body. Your Sigma 24mm lens will also provide a wider angle, and with your Japanese 28mm f/2 you will then actually have a fast WA lens! So your interest in a FF body has good rationale. But the forthcoming APS-C K-new might very well bring performance even closer to that of FF in terms of IQ and low noise.

08-19-2020, 04:51 PM	#57
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Where is the danger in starting a thread about the danger of a K1? Well there you go down the rabbit hole. Money already gone.

08-19-2020, 05:24 PM	#58
James also Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 330	Welcome into the light. I have never looked back with doubt since purchasing the K1. There are some annoying little quirks with buttons being in the same place but for different uses. Once retrained, not a problem. Enjoy

08-19-2020, 06:26 PM - 1 Like	#59
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,408	Originally posted by dbs More so Sly has gone and bought one.! Dave Ah well, it's all downhill from there!

08-19-2020, 06:26 PM - 1 Like	#60
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,408	Originally posted by aslyfox not sure I'm up to starting another thread Congrats on your purchase Allen. I'm sure you won't regret it.