K-New/Focusing/Wildlife

**Biff** · 08-31-2020, 08:47 PM

Sorry if I missed this in another K-New thread.

Any speculation as to whether the K-New will have focusing comparable to contemporaries, e.g. for wildlife?

**alfa75ts** · 08-31-2020, 09:11 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by Biff

Any speculation as to whether the K-New will have focusing comparable to contemporaries, e.g. for wildlife?

Tons of speculation, a whole heap of expectation but no actual knowledge

**david94903** · 08-31-2020, 09:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by alfa75ts

Tons of speculation, a whole heap of expectation but no actual knowledge

Excellently stated! You've covered it brilliantly, LOL!

**Biff** · 08-31-2020, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by david94903

Excellently stated! You've covered it brilliantly, LOL!

Thanks. It was actually a pretty stupid question.

I'm just trying to decide whether to hold off, or just get a separate system for wildlife. A lot of affordable DSLR stuff out there right now. Would still keep my Pentax gear for other work.

**rod_grant** · 08-31-2020, 09:37 PM

Biff, what are you using at the moment?
With the right lenses, the KP focuses pretty nicely.

**Biff** · 08-31-2020, 09:46 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by rod_grant

Biff, what are you using at the moment?
With the right lenses, the KP focuses pretty nicely.

I'm using a KP. If I stay with Pentax for wildlife I'd like to get the 150-450, and think it's among the best if not the best zoom in that range out there. But for $2K I want to be sure I won't be frustrated with the body.

Only for comparison, not saying I'll go this direction, but for about the same price as the 150-450 I could get a Nikon D7500 and Nikkor 200-500.

I'm long sold on Pentax quality, this question is just mainly about wildlife.

Thanks for your reply.

**alfa75ts** · 08-31-2020, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Biff

Thanks. It was actually a pretty stupid question.

Not really or perhaps "it depends", most of the threads devolve into 'sockets', 'notches' or 'screens' and much 'speculation' so it can be hard to get a real idea of what the true status may be.

On the speculation side, based only on the spacing of the two teaser videos, we might be due for something at the end of September. Probably another teaser but maybe, just maybe, something else.

OoKU · 08-31-2020, 09:59 PM - **1 Like**

No problem, won't let you down.

noelpolar · 08-31-2020, 10:12 PM - **1 Like**

History would not be a good indicator here..... so we can only hope for a miracle.

FWIW... I'm going away on a boys photography weekend next month.... a friend will have his 7500 and 200-500.... I'll have my K1, KP and 150-450 so I'll have a chance to compare. The KP and 150-450 does not set the world on fire for me in the focusing regard.... for me... it is just incrementally better from the K3 etc... for what I do it doesn't bother me though.... but it is not a fast focusing beast.... if the Knew is a miracle (focus wise).... it will be hard to pass on.

**Biff** · 08-31-2020, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by noelpolar

History would not be a good indicator here..... so we can only hope for a miracle.

FWIW... I'm going away on a boys photography weekend next month.... a friend will have his 7500 and 200-500.... I'll have my K1, KP and 150-450 so I'll have a chance to compare. The KP and 150-450 does not set the world on fire for me in the focusing regard.... for me... it is just incrementally better from the K3 etc... for what I do it doesn't bother me though.... but it is not a fast focusing beast.... if the Knew is a miracle (focus wise).... it will be hard to pass on.

Perfect timing, perfect comparison. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this when you get back. And appreciate your thoughts about the KP and 150-450.

Thanks much.

**david94903** · 08-31-2020, 10:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Biff

Thanks. It was actually a pretty stupid question.

Nah... the only stupid question is the one not asked. Besides, we do love to speculate and build expectations.

Originally posted by Biff

If I stay with Pentax for wildlife I'd like to get the 150-450

The 150-450 is my most used lens. And I can't recommend it enough. It's expensive and its a beast. And, for me, it is totally worth every penny. I used it on my K3 before moving to the K1. If you want fast FPS for birdinng, get yourself a Sony A9. A buddy of mine bought one. Why??? I don't know but it's insanely fast, and insanely expensive, with an equally insanely expensive 100-400 lens. And it takes nice pictures. Almost as nice as my K1. Maybe. That choice of staying or going is personal; will be up to you, your needs, your workflow. My K3 shoots more FPS than my K1. But my K1 is more than sufficient to satisfy most of my BIF needs. I don't shoot for a living, so my livelihood is not dependent on FPS.

Originally posted by noelpolar

History would not be a good indicator here..... so we can only hope for a miracle.

Isn't that the truth.

**mikesbike** · 09-01-2020, 12:03 AM - **1 Like**

For what kind of wildlife? Is Biff short for Birds in fast flight??

BROO · 09-01-2020, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by Biff

Perfect timing, perfect comparison. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this when you get back. And appreciate your thoughts about the KP and 150-450.

Thanks much.

I actually purchased the D FA 150-450 last year in anticipation of the K-new approaching Nikon D500 levels of performance. I am still comfortable with that decision. I think all will be revealed this month so you should just wait a little bit longer.

noelpolar · 09-01-2020, 03:33 AM - **4 Likes**

Wouldn't it be nice if all us.... 10 years from now could say.... "yeah I remember 2020... that was the year Pentax nailed autofocus..... oh yeah... I think something else big happened that year.... can't quite recall what it was though......"

redpit · 09-01-2020, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by noelpolar

Wouldn't it be nice if all us.... 10 years from now could say.... "yeah I remember 2020... that was the year Pentax nailed autofocus..... oh yeah... I think something else big happened that year.... can't quite recall what it was though......"

great post! Thanks for the laugh!

08-31-2020, 08:47 PM	#1
Biff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Photos: Albums Posts: 1,081	K-New/Focusing/Wildlife Sorry if I missed this in another K-New thread. Any speculation as to whether the K-New will have focusing comparable to contemporaries, e.g. for wildlife?

08-31-2020, 09:46 PM - 2 Likes	#6
Biff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Photos: Albums Posts: 1,081 Original Poster	Originally posted by rod_grant Biff, what are you using at the moment? With the right lenses, the KP focuses pretty nicely. I'm using a KP. If I stay with Pentax for wildlife I'd like to get the 150-450, and think it's among the best if not the best zoom in that range out there. But for $2K I want to be sure I won't be frustrated with the body. Only for comparison, not saying I'll go this direction, but for about the same price as the 150-450 I could get a Nikon D7500 and Nikkor 200-500. I'm long sold on Pentax quality, this question is just mainly about wildlife. Thanks for your reply. Last edited by Biff; 08-31-2020 at 09:57 PM.

08-31-2020, 10:12 PM - 1 Like	#9
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	History would not be a good indicator here..... so we can only hope for a miracle. FWIW... I'm going away on a boys photography weekend next month.... a friend will have his 7500 and 200-500.... I'll have my K1, KP and 150-450 so I'll have a chance to compare. The KP and 150-450 does not set the world on fire for me in the focusing regard.... for me... it is just incrementally better from the K3 etc... for what I do it doesn't bother me though.... but it is not a fast focusing beast.... if the Knew is a miracle (focus wise).... it will be hard to pass on. Last edited by noelpolar; 08-31-2020 at 10:22 PM.

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08-31-2020, 09:11 PM - 4 Likes	#2
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by Biff Any speculation as to whether the K-New will have focusing comparable to contemporaries, e.g. for wildlife? Tons of speculation, a whole heap of expectation but no actual knowledge

08-31-2020, 09:23 PM - 1 Like	#3
david94903 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Rafael, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 806	Originally posted by alfa75ts Tons of speculation, a whole heap of expectation but no actual knowledge Excellently stated! You've covered it brilliantly, LOL!

08-31-2020, 09:32 PM	#4
Biff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Photos: Albums Posts: 1,081 Original Poster	Originally posted by david94903 Excellently stated! You've covered it brilliantly, LOL! Thanks. It was actually a pretty stupid question. I'm just trying to decide whether to hold off, or just get a separate system for wildlife. A lot of affordable DSLR stuff out there right now. Would still keep my Pentax gear for other work.

08-31-2020, 09:37 PM	#5
rod_grant Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wangaratta, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,951	Biff, what are you using at the moment? With the right lenses, the KP focuses pretty nicely.

08-31-2020, 09:53 PM	#7
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by Biff Thanks. It was actually a pretty stupid question. Not really or perhaps "it depends", most of the threads devolve into 'sockets', 'notches' or 'screens' and much 'speculation' so it can be hard to get a real idea of what the true status may be. On the speculation side, based only on the spacing of the two teaser videos, we might be due for something at the end of September. Probably another teaser but maybe, just maybe, something else.

08-31-2020, 09:59 PM - 1 Like	#8
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	No problem, won't let you down.

08-31-2020, 10:26 PM	#10
Biff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Photos: Albums Posts: 1,081 Original Poster	Originally posted by noelpolar History would not be a good indicator here..... so we can only hope for a miracle. FWIW... I'm going away on a boys photography weekend next month.... a friend will have his 7500 and 200-500.... I'll have my K1, KP and 150-450 so I'll have a chance to compare. The KP and 150-450 does not set the world on fire for me in the focusing regard.... for me... it is just incrementally better from the K3 etc... for what I do it doesn't bother me though.... but it is not a fast focusing beast.... if the Knew is a miracle (focus wise).... it will be hard to pass on. Perfect timing, perfect comparison. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this when you get back. And appreciate your thoughts about the KP and 150-450. Thanks much.

08-31-2020, 10:39 PM - 1 Like	#11
david94903 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Rafael, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 806	Originally posted by Biff Thanks. It was actually a pretty stupid question. Nah... the only stupid question is the one not asked. Besides, we do love to speculate and build expectations. Originally posted by Biff If I stay with Pentax for wildlife I'd like to get the 150-450 The 150-450 is my most used lens. And I can't recommend it enough. It's expensive and its a beast. And, for me, it is totally worth every penny. I used it on my K3 before moving to the K1. If you want fast FPS for birdinng, get yourself a Sony A9. A buddy of mine bought one. Why??? I don't know but it's insanely fast, and insanely expensive, with an equally insanely expensive 100-400 lens. And it takes nice pictures. Almost as nice as my K1. Maybe. That choice of staying or going is personal; will be up to you, your needs, your workflow. My K3 shoots more FPS than my K1. But my K1 is more than sufficient to satisfy most of my BIF needs. I don't shoot for a living, so my livelihood is not dependent on FPS. Originally posted by noelpolar History would not be a good indicator here..... so we can only hope for a miracle. Isn't that the truth.

09-01-2020, 12:03 AM - 1 Like	#12
mikesbike Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Southeastern Michigan Posts: 4,549	For what kind of wildlife? Is Biff short for Birds in fast flight??

09-01-2020, 12:12 AM	#13
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by Biff Perfect timing, perfect comparison. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this when you get back. And appreciate your thoughts about the KP and 150-450. Thanks much. I actually purchased the D FA 150-450 last year in anticipation of the K-new approaching Nikon D500 levels of performance. I am still comfortable with that decision. I think all will be revealed this month so you should just wait a little bit longer.

09-01-2020, 03:33 AM - 4 Likes	#14
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Wouldn't it be nice if all us.... 10 years from now could say.... "yeah I remember 2020... that was the year Pentax nailed autofocus..... oh yeah... I think something else big happened that year.... can't quite recall what it was though......"

09-01-2020, 05:02 AM	#15
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by noelpolar Wouldn't it be nice if all us.... 10 years from now could say.... "yeah I remember 2020... that was the year Pentax nailed autofocus..... oh yeah... I think something else big happened that year.... can't quite recall what it was though......" great post! Thanks for the laugh!

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