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09-13-2020, 06:40 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by pres589 Quote
I'll start reaching for the checkbook when it gets down to around $1500 and I've actually held one. I know this means I won't be getting one for up to a year after they hit the market. This is about as crazy as I can rationalize.
I got my KP without touching one - my experience with the K-30 plus the experience of others with the KP was enough to sell me ..... and I wasn't disappointed.

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For many of us, holding one before we buy one is simply impossible, due to where we live and Pentax distribution around the world. So I will have to buy sight unseen.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Flubber Quote
For many of us, holding one before we buy one is simply impossible, due to where we live and Pentax distribution around the world. So I will have to buy sight unseen.
That's why the feature set is so important. It can't impress us with ergonomics, if we can't hold it. Ergonomics is personal.
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I would pay up to the current price ($1800 USD) of a K1ii for the "new" camera if it has a revolutionary new must-have feature. But at this time no one knows what features it will have. It very well might have some exciting new feature that none of us are yet aware of.

I came to Pentax from other camera systems (Nikon, Fuji) in 2015 for one reason - to buy the K3ii to get pixel shift.

If the "new" camera has a new feature as exciting to me as pixel shift was in 2015 you can bet I'll be buying one. However, I'll not buy one if the improvements are only incremental improvements on features already found in existing Pentax cameras.


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Zilch.

I have a K-3 II, K-70, K-01... already an embarrassment of riches.
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I am not really in the market this fall though I expect to replace my K-3II next year some time.
My guess, since that is all we can do at this point, is a body only 'list' of $1,700. Street prices falling to $1,500 by January.
The K-3 launched at $1,300 and inflation alone makes that price $1,450 plus in today's dollars. Add 10% because it's 'K-new' and a bit more because there has been no prosumer APS-c for a long time (meaning pent up demand) and you get $1,700.
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I live in Edmonton, Canada.
I intend to pre-order when available.

I expect to pay $1800 $200 CAD.
Battery grip is probably another $200 CAD.

To put prices in perspective:
K-1 II (body only) sells for $2499.95 CAD on sale right now for $2399.99 CAD.
KP (body only) sells for $1249.99 CAD on sale right now for $1049.99 CAD.
D500 (body only) sells for $2099.99 CAD on sale right now for $1999.99 CAD.
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Depends what it does. Simple as that.

I am a system shooter. 645 and FF, a lot of lenses between the 2, multiple flashes. I don't need an apsc camera for stills as I am neither a sports/action nor a wildlife shooter. But if the camera has pretty good video chops, then we might just have a sale. The better the video chops, the more I'd be willing to pay, up to around $3K usd. That would be better for me than getting a different system for video, and more lenses in some different mount.

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QuoteOriginally posted by FozzFoster Quote
I live in Edmonton, Canada.
I intend to pre-order when available.

I expect to pay $1800 $200 CAD.
Battery grip is probably another $200 CAD.

To put prices in perspective:
K-1 II (body only) sells for $2499.95 CAD on sale right now for $2399.99 CAD.
KP (body only) sells for $1249.99 CAD on sale right now for $1049.99 CAD.
D500 (body only) sells for $2099.99 CAD on sale right now for $1999.99 CAD.
I'm expecting a similar price, mind you that it's all a guess seeing that we don't know the full feature set. I expect an APS-C flagship to be priced less than the FF flagship even if it is newer although the gap may be narrower than if two new products were released together. Pentax have always delivered products with great bang for the buck so I would expect the prices to be below other brands comparative models. In Australia the XT-4 is around the AU$2,900 (although if you go searching you can find online stores selling them for AU$2,100). A D500 can be bought in store for as low as AU$2,000, the KP is under AU$1,300 and a K-1ii can be bought for AU$2,800. If K-new is around the XT-4's store price of AU$2,900 then as much as I'd like to upgrade my K-3ii I probably won't be doing it until prices drop. I bought my K-3ii new for around AU$1,500 and I'm guessing, or rather hoping, that K-New will be under AU$2,000. With any luck we should all know in a few weeks.
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I'd guess it would launch at around $1,700 to $1,800 and then move down to a price of around $1,500. Would I pay $1,500 for it? Probably not, as I'm exceedingly happy with my K-1II.

If I still shot the K5 then I'd probably be more keen. Assuming the camera packs tech improvements not see in the K-1II, I would be tempted to say that I'd probably look for those same improvements to be released in a FF successor to the K-1II in the future so that would, most likely, be where I'd rather spend my money.
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Probably somewhat less than the FF K-1 II is my guess. That makes the most sense, although any comparison or choice between a FF model and one of APS-C has to be done while considering the types of uses, as each has strengths and advantages when it comes to practical applications.

Willingness to pay a more premium price will also be affected by what will be offered in terms of improvements.

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QuoteOriginally posted by pres589 Quote
I'll start reaching for the checkbook when it gets down to around $1500 and I've actually held one. I know this means I won't be getting one for up to a year after they hit the market. This is about as crazy as I can rationalize.
I was unaware a production copy has been presented for examination. If not, the final product may include some changes over a pre-production concept sample.

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those same improvements to be released in a FF successor to the K-1II in the future so that would,
I can't wait ten years
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It is very enlightening reading the posts. What is emerging is that $1,500 seems to be the sweet spot. Some are willing to go higher, especially K-3 folks. KP guys sound like to me not entirely convinced quite yet. K-1 people sound like to me not convinced at all, and I am one of them. If above $2,000, then it just may test our devotion to the brand (maybe not for FF camp though). Would this camera, at $1,500, convince other brands shooters to switch? Probably not. It will need more than a bright VF. This camera has had a misfortune of being hit by COVID crisis during a very crucial time of the development cycle. There had to be a financial hit. Would they recoup that by hitting the consumers, or eat it and move on? What if it dame out at $1,299? That will catch my attention.
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Question...how badly do we think Pentax wants to sell this camera and how much money do they think we have?

Introductory price will be determined by a combination of those two things and market demand. What I will pay depends on how many years my K-3 continues to operate trouble free.


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It is very enlightening reading the posts. What is emerging is that $1,500 seems to be the sweet spot.
...and so it was with previous flagship models, adjusted for inflation of course. I will add that $1500 USD would be the low estimate with $1800 or $1900 as the high estimate.


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