[bluestringer]

Looking at a K-5iis that has a shutter count of 127,000. Ad says it works fine, and the price is low, but is this too much. Can it be expected to fail soon.

[shyrsio]

it depends on how much you want to shoot it. If you shoot for hobby, you will make about 10 000 clicks a year. so in a couple of years you will reach the end of the safe zone, after that your shutter might fail. I say might, and it doesn't mean it WILL. If you get it for a good price, I wouldn't hesitate.

[pepperberry farm]

Looking at a K-5iis that has a shutter count of 127,000. Ad says it works fine, and the price is low, but is this too much. Can it be expected to fail soon.

as above - there's no guarantee that it will fail within a certain number of clicks at all

depending upon the price and condition, and how badly you want a K-5 IIs......

[ismaelg]

Shutter count is like mileage on a car. It can give you an idea but it is not the only parameter. Yes it is a lot, but, does it look good and well cared for? Does it work fine? Do you know if it has been serviced? If the price is right, why not? A low count unit can fail as well.

Thanks,

[aslyfox]

as far as I know, the " shutter count " number s an estimate by the manufacturer

no independent testing, no guaranty

perhaps someone else knows more ?

so you roll the dice and take your chances

[.a.t.]

The sample size is small, but there's some information here:

pentax k-5 iis | Camera Shutter Life Database


(By the way, I added my K-5iis' count to that database - it's at about 24,500 and doing fine.
And my K-7 is over 140,000.)

[aslyfox]

" very interesting "

You Tube

You Tube

thanks

here is the link to the " search "

http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/

[DWS1]

When a company puts out an expected life span of a product, that estimate is very conservative. The actual life is probably much longer. If they had put out a shutter life estimate of say 400,000 actuations, people would be complaining all over the place when their cameras failed before 300,000, and it would get labeled as a bad product. By putting it at 200,000, people are over joyed when they hit 250,000 and talking about what a great camera it is. What the actual life maybe nobody knows. It's all marketing.

[bluestringer]

Thanks for all the replies. I passed on it.

[Pål Jensen]

as far as I know, the " shutter count " number s an estimate by the manufacturer

no independent testing, no guaranty

perhaps someone else knows more ?

so you roll the dice and take your chances

It is the number the manufacturers says the shutter will be within specification. It is not self destruct numbers.
Some camera magazine back in the film days tested this. The Canon Rebel rated at 50 000 lasted 350 000 before it stopped.....

[totsmuyco]

It is the number the manufacturers says the shutter will be within specification. It is not self destruct numbers.
Some camera magazine back in the film days tested this. The Canon Rebel rated at 50 000 lasted 350 000 before it stopped.....

Wow! 350,000 is really high. I hope my cams will reach that. I'm a person who likes my equipment to last me a long time.

[disasterfilm]

It's a probability curve. Sometimes you're getting the better end of the deal, sometimes you get within one standard deviation of the average, and other times you get the bad end.

Whatever the K-1's shutter is rated at, I had to replace mine at 90-94k actuations (I don't remember which anymore).
And now I never shoot timelapse sequences with my main camera anymore.

If you're going to buy a 127k shutter camera, have a backup ready too or be willing to rent another for a return period.

[35mmfilmfan]

These days, I work on the principle that almost anything I get will outlast me - with the exception of bottles of JD.

[reh321]

It is the number the manufacturers says the shutter will be within specification. It is not self destruct numbers.
Some camera magazine back in the film days tested this. The Canon Rebel rated at 50 000 lasted 350 000 before it stopped.....

I had two Canon Digital Rebels fail with a combined shutter count of something like 5000 - both had processor issues.
There is more than shutter count to consider in a camera.

[haroon88]

All machines are not every time reliable. Some might not fail, I mean never (if used properly), some might fail in the first 50 uses (let's say). However, I would buy that for a very low price since it is used a lot.