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10-12-2006, 07:30 PM   #1
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I've shopped lenses until I've confused myself

When I purchased my K100D with 18-55 lense, I also purchased a 70-300 Promaster Macro/Zoom. The 18-55 is a decent lens and so is the Promaster. Myl local store had offered to swap the 70-300 for a 18-200 and give me full credit. Well, they are out of the 18-200, their shipment has been back ordered and the have no idea when the new stock will arrive.

My intention was to have the 18-200 as a good walk around lense and leave in on the K100 most of the time. But now, since I'm going to have to wait, I'm thinking about other options.

Now, my question. Does anyone have actual hands on experience with the Pentax F4 50-200mm zoom? Do you use it in concert with the 18-55. Is it a good walk around lense or is it too long on the short end?

Would I be better off waiting for the 18-200 or odering one from a mail order house and have all three lenses at my disposal. Or, in your opinions, grab to 50-200 to compliment the 18-55 and sell the 70-300.

As I said, I've probably overthought this entire thing.


Now, what do I intend to use my camera for??? Intially, a little of everything, Landscape, Nature, some portraits and the rest of the stuff newbies do with a new toy.

Any, and all, advice will be welcome.

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QuoteOriginally posted by EddyinGA Quote
When I purchased my K100D with 18-55 lense, I also purchased a 70-300 Promaster Macro/Zoom. The 18-55 is a decent lens and so is the Promaster. Myl local store had offered to swap the 70-300 for a 18-200 and give me full credit. Well, they are out of the 18-200, their shipment has been back ordered and the have no idea when the new stock will arrive.

My intention was to have the 18-200 as a good walk around lense and leave in on the K100 most of the time. But now, since I'm going to have to wait, I'm thinking about other options.
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Now, what do I intend to use my camera for??? Intially, a little of everything, Landscape, Nature, some portraits and the rest of the stuff newbies do with a new toy.

Any, and all, advice will be welcome.
Here is some advice, but take it with a grain of salt that I own none of the lenses you mention. That is actually a good lead-in to the advice; namely, I own exactly one zoom lens (a Tamron 28-75/2.8) that doesn't get a whole lot of use.
My advice is to stick with what you have and see if there isn't a prime out there that floats your boat. Maybe try keeping the kit lens at ~50mm to see how you feel about that angle of view. Try some portraits with it, go for a walk around. Then maybe try doing the same at either 35mm or 28mm. The FA50/1.4, FA35/2, and FA28/2.8 might be perfect lenses for what your looking to do. Keep in mind that compared to the kit lens those primes have a HUGE light advantage, not to mention the image quality is better. My advice is just to see if maybe a good prime is in your future...

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10-13-2006, 01:10 AM   #3
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I've got the 18-55, the 50-200 and a Sigma 24-135 and I have a Sigma 100-300 on the way. I like the range and usability of the Sigma the most. The 18-55 gets more use than the 50-200 by far. I like the all around lens as a daily driver, but I like the idea of having good prime lenses when I am out to shoot with a purpose. If I were you, I'd prolly get the 18-200 to play around with on the daily and get a good collection of prime lenses to compliment it at the ranges that you shoot the most. That is how I plan on doing it.
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Hi EddyinGA

Here is some scenarios, pick the one that fit you most:

1. Quality is very important to you but you don't know which focal lengthes you will be shooting at yet.

Get the 18-200 and once you find out which focal lengthes you shoot at most, sell it and get the prime lenses.

2. Quality is important but you have got a limited budget and convenience is important too. Keep the 18-55 and get the DA50-200 or you might want to upgrade 18-55 to 16-45/4

3. Casual shooter and as long as the photos are ok you are fine. Get the 18-200 and keep using it until another need arises.

4. Quality is very important, unlimited budget, and you want convenience. Get the 18-200 now and buy the DA* 16-50/2.8 and DA* 50-135/2.8 when they become available.


See, nice and simple! =)

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QuoteOriginally posted by EddyinGA Quote
When I purchased my K100D with 18-55 lense, I also purchased a 70-300 Promaster Macro/Zoom. The 18-55 is a decent lens and so is the Promaster. Myl local store had offered to swap the 70-300 for a 18-200 and give me full credit. Well, they are out of the 18-200, their shipment has been back ordered and the have no idea when the new stock will arrive.

My intention was to have the 18-200 as a good walk around lense and leave in on the K100 most of the time. But now, since I'm going to have to wait, I'm thinking about other options.

Now, my question. Does anyone have actual hands on experience with the Pentax F4 50-200mm zoom? Do you use it in concert with the 18-55. Is it a good walk around lense or is it too long on the short end?

Would I be better off waiting for the 18-200 or odering one from a mail order house and have all three lenses at my disposal. Or, in your opinions, grab to 50-200 to compliment the 18-55 and sell the 70-300.

As I said, I've probably overthought this entire thing.


Now, what do I intend to use my camera for??? Intially, a little of everything, Landscape, Nature, some portraits and the rest of the stuff newbies do with a new toy.

Any, and all, advice will be welcome.


10-13-2006, 05:36 AM   #5
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QuoteOriginally posted by kjao Quote
Hi EddyinGA

2. Quality is important but you have got a limited budget and convenience is important too. Keep the 18-55 and get the DA50-200 or you might want to upgrade 18-55 to 16-45/4

See, nice and simple! =)

cheers
Kenny
I think that's the one that fits most.

thanks,

Ed
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QuoteOriginally posted by kjao Quote
Get the 18-200 and once you find out which focal lengthes you shoot at most, sell it and get the prime lenses.
I must say that this is very wise advice!
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Hi I have and use the 50-200 mm lens on my K100d for most shots. I find its good from 4ft to what ever, just use the manual focus for the short shots.
I my self be some what new to the digital slr, find the more pic's i take the more I find out about this great camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by EddyinGA Quote
When I purchased my K100D with 18-55 lense, I also purchased a 70-300 Promaster Macro/Zoom. The 18-55 is a decent lens and so is the Promaster. Myl local store had offered to swap the 70-300 for a 18-200 and give me full credit. Well, they are out of the 18-200, their shipment has been back ordered and the have no idea when the new stock will arrive.

My intention was to have the 18-200 as a good walk around lense and leave in on the K100 most of the time. But now, since I'm going to have to wait, I'm thinking about other options.

Now, my question. Does anyone have actual hands on experience with the Pentax F4 50-200mm zoom? Do you use it in concert with the 18-55. Is it a good walk around lense or is it too long on the short end?

Would I be better off waiting for the 18-200 or odering one from a mail order house and have all three lenses at my disposal. Or, in your opinions, grab to 50-200 to compliment the 18-55 and sell the 70-300.

As I said, I've probably overthought this entire thing.


Now, what do I intend to use my camera for??? Intially, a little of everything, Landscape, Nature, some portraits and the rest of the stuff newbies do with a new toy.

Any, and all, advice will be welcome.

I have the DA 50-200, and have enjoyed it. Recently, however, I bought a Sigma 24-135mm, and have been blown away by the pictures it takes. I know that a few people have experienced problems with this lens, ie focusing, etc. I have not had any problems whatsoever, and comparing the two (Sigma and Pentax), I much prefer the sharpness, contrast, and look of the pics. The Pentax is very light, while the Sigma is a much bigger, heavier lens. The Pentax is faster focusing also, but I have found since purchasing the Sigma, I hardly ever use my DA 50-200. Plus, the Sigma can be bought for around $100.

Hope this helps.

10-22-2006, 03:09 PM   #9
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My decision was to purchase the 50-200 F4 Pentax Lense and keep the Promaster 70-300 zoom/macro.

I've done a bit of research and I believe the Promaster to be the same lens as the Tamron 70-300 as they have identical specs.

I found that with only the 18-55 and the 70-300 I was switching back and forth very often and that many of the photos I had been shooting were in the 100 - 180 range when I needed the telephoto lens and that the majority of those taken with the 18-55 lens were at or near the 55mm end of the lens.

So, the 50-200 seem to make the most sense to complement the 18-55. I've kept the 70-300 and am sure that I will find quite a lot of use for the additional 100mm beyond the 50-200.

Now, if I can just develope an understanding of shooting, and processing, RAW. I have the PSE5 soft ware and have downloaded the plug in for the K100D. Not really sure how all of that works with RAW but will be experimenting soon.

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