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04-08-2021, 09:45 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
As far as "warranty" is concerned: if a card is going to fail and it's loaded full of "one in a lifetime" shots .... what good is it anyway?
Sandisk cards have been my choice for several years and I presume that they are just as good as the ones you mention here.
The warranty may give an indication of the quality: If a company gives a long warranty they do not do that because they want to see many cards be returned. There was even a brand that gave a long warranty and the certainty that you got another card within a day shipped from their factory. Of course when that card has the shot of a lifetime on it that long warranty does not mean a lot at all. It is the thought behind with a company that has a reputation to loose.

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QuoteOriginally posted by FozzFoster Quote
Thats why you have two card slots.
So you've still captured the moment, and you might get your money back! :P
Agreed.

But !!! Cards are cards and subject to failing, albeit rarely... warrantied or not !
04-09-2021, 10:35 AM   #18
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QuoteOriginally posted by gatorguy Quote
Correct, only one slot is UHS-II and can take advantage of the much faster SD cards I mentioned, but the faster cards are backwards compatible.
No, what I meant is different SD card reader controller chips have different speeds. That means UHS-II slot on different cameras will vary in speed depending on which company made that slot/reader.
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No, what I meant is different SD card reader controller chips have different speeds. That means UHS-II slot on different cameras will vary in speed depending on which company made that slot/reader.
Oh, understood.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gatorguy Quote
Any U3 card was fine, even Class 10 for most of us.
Same thing.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gatorguy Quote
All V90's
Why ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
COLOR="Silver"]posted by gatorguy
All V90's[/I]

Why ?
Why? Because:

Recommended UHS-II Memory Cards for Nikon D500
-Sony SF-G Tough UHS-II Card (300 MB/s, V90)
-Lexar Professional 2000x UHS-II Card (300 MB/s, V90)
-SanDisk Extreme PRO UHS-II Card (300 MB/s, V90)
-Hoodman Steel 2000x UHS-II SD Card (300 MB/s, V90)
-Lexar Professional 1667x UHS-II Card (250 MB/s, V60)


and I'm spending my own money.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gatorguy Quote
None of the previous Pentax cameras would transfer data faster than 45mb/s no matter how fast your SD card was, and the K1 is even slower. Any U3 card was fine, even Class 10 for most of us.
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Same thing.
Not as far as I knew. While a U3 card is also a Class 10, not every Class 10 card is U3. If that's incorrect please explain why.

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Why? Because:
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Nikon D500
ive seen you say you only shoot Pentax,Is that still the case?

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If that's incorrect please explain why.
There is a technical difference, however cast your mind back to Pre V numbers.There was Class 10,which was fastest and recommended for the basic 4K video and still works.V30 transfers data a little faster and is now the recommended for basic 4K video...hence "the same"...technically they differ a little but do the same job.

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A very timely topic as I also haven't needed to buy a new card in almost 10 years. My Lexar Prof. 16Gb 133x has done quite nicely in my K-5 but it was time to do some research and get myself up-to-speed. ;-)

I found this article helpful to understand the most recent coding terminology. Lexar vs. Sandisk: The Guide to Which SD Card is Best

I don't intend to shoot much video but will want to take advantage of the potential 12fps. My question is whether I actually "need" 260Mbs or can I count on the buffer to carry most of the load such that a lower write speed will be sufficient?

(edit, I think 260Mbs is the fastest write speed out there for regular prices, but do I even need that?)

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QuoteOriginally posted by surfar Quote
ive seen you say you only shoot Pentax,Is that still the case?

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There is a technical difference, however cast your mind back to Pre V numbers.There was Class 10,which was fastest and recommended for the basic 4K video and still works.V30 transfers data a little faster and is now the recommended for basic 4K video...hence "the same"...technically they differ a little but do the same job.
So the same, but they're different.

I think "backward-compatible" would be the key-phrase. Every UHS-II SD card is technically Class 10 (or U1) too aren't they?
EDIT: A 'splainer from B&H for curious souls

UHS Speed Class Rating This is the minimum sustained writing speed of the card; important for video recording. UHS Speed class 3 cards will never write slower than 30 MB/s, UHS Speed class 1 cards never slower than 10 MB/s.

Speed-Class Rating This is an older speed-class rating. It is redundant of the UHS speed class, but many card manufacturers include it, as well, since many consumer products still recommend products based on the old standard. A class 10 is the fastet of the old speed class ratings and a class 10 card is verified to never write slower than 10 MB/s, class 4 would be never slower than 4 MB/s.

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QuoteOriginally posted by SimplyCreativePhotography Quote
My question is whether I actually "need" 260Mbs or can I count on the buffer to carry most of the load such that a lower write speed will be sufficient?
(edit, I think 260Mbs is the fastest write speed out there for regular prices, but do I even need that?)
I'd like to link to my posts:
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Photo:
141DNG @ 8GB = ~55Mbyte/photo.
UHS-II means 104-312Mbyte/s bandwith, so with 12fps burst you should get a card with at least 150Mbyte/s constant minimum writing speed if you repeat bursts and the Buffer of 30 DNGs isn't cleared.
Toshiba Exceria Pro would be a good choice.
EXCERIA PRO SD Memory Card | KIOXIA
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Thanks for not getting tired of answering this question in multiple threads.

One thing I'm not clear about is the impact of the slower UHS-1 slot if I'm writing to it with backup jpg's. If my SD card in slot 1 writes my RAW images at 150Mb/sec but in one of your other posts, you indicate that the maximum without buffer for UHS-1 would be 6fps.

Does that mean that if I think I will want/need more than 6fps, then I should not dual-write?
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QuoteOriginally posted by SimplyCreativePhotography Quote
Thanks for not getting tired of answering this question in multiple threads.

One thing I'm not clear about is the impact of the slower UHS-1 slot if I'm writing to it with backup jpg's. Does that mean that if I think I will want/need more than 6fps, then I should not dual-write?


Yes, i'd say so:
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UHS-I can transfer up to 104 Mbyte/s. So with the JPG-Files beeing 15 Mbyte and the Buffer for 37 JPGs, up to 6fps without Buffer could be possible with UHS-I.
Since Slot 1 ist UHS-II, not much to worry about for RAW
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Yes, i'd say so:
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QuoteOriginally posted by SimplyCreativePhotography Quote
Thanks for not getting tired of answering this question in multiple threads.

One thing I'm not clear about is the impact of the slower UHS-1 slot if I'm writing to it with backup jpg's. If my SD card in slot 1 writes my RAW images at 150Mb/sec but in one of your other posts, you indicate that the maximum without buffer for UHS-1 would be 6fps.

Does that mean that if I think I will want/need more than 6fps, then I should not dual-write?
I haven't seen the speed class supported by the K3 III's UHS-I slot but the SD spec itself allows up to 90MB sustained write, meaning AFAIK twice what the KP or any previous Pentax APS-C permitted.
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