My first camera with little budget

**Apet-Sure** · 07-13-2021, 12:10 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clickclick

I've read so much about the color of the CCD sensor, I would go for one with that. I"ve thought of buying one just to try firsthand.

I think you might be pleased with this experiment. My K-5 IIs and KP produce wonderful images, but there is something a little magical about that CCD sensor in the K10D IMO. Call it 'pixie dust'.

Just keep the ISO low.

**clickclick** · 07-13-2021, 04:47 PM

Looks like I have my marching orders too for a camera with a CCD sensor.

ChristianRock · 07-14-2021, 10:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clickclick

Looks like I have my marching orders too for a camera with a CCD sensor.

It's worth playing with one. I get a lot of use from my K200D and K10D.

The K20D also had very good colors, and mikesbike is right, the pictures looked sharp with it. I particularly loved the skin tones. But if you do post processing with RAW the sensor dynamic range was too limited.

The following CMOS cameras, which all have Sony sensors, have not rendered colors to my liking, up to the K-3 (which needs a bit of work to get the colors to my taste). From the K-S1 on, it seems the Pentax CMOS treatment has mostly caught up, and the following cameras (K-S2, K-70, KP, K-3 III) have gotten progressively better. But CCD cameras still have some nuances in color transitions and in their capturing of luminance that seem to set it apart, so at the prices they go for these days, why not get one to play with?

**clickclick** · 07-14-2021, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

It's worth playing with one. I get a lot of use from my K200D and K10D.

The K20D also had very good colors, and mikesbike is right, the pictures looked sharp with it. I particularly loved the skin tones. But if you do post processing with RAW the sensor dynamic range was too limited.

The following CMOS cameras, which all have Sony sensors, have not rendered colors to my liking, up to the K-3 (which needs a bit of work to get the colors to my taste). From the K-S1 on, it seems the Pentax CMOS treatment has mostly caught up, and the following cameras (K-S2, K-70, KP, K-3 III) have gotten progressively better. But CCD cameras still have some nuances in color transitions and in their capturing of luminance that seem to set it apart, so at the prices they go for these days, why not get one to play with?

I feel a GAS attack coming on.

Do you recall this thread that @BigMackCam posted?

Get "that CCD look" with the K-3 / K-3II and Lightroom - PentaxForums.com

ChristianRock · 07-14-2021, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by clickclick

I feel a GAS attack coming on.

Do you recall this thread that @BigMackCam posted?

Get "that CCD look" with the K-3 / K-3II and Lightroom - PentaxForums.com

Yes, I do... but since I don't use Lightroom, I was never really able to try these settings out.

I do get OK results from RawTherapee - there's a couple of film emulations in HaldClut that I think turn the colors into something far more pleasing than what I get SOOC. Usually I have to fix the WB as well, it's usually on the cold side.

Jonathan Mac · 07-15-2021, 01:59 AM

That's a tough choice as all of these are a little old. The Km and K10D use the same sensor and between them I'd choose the K10D I think. I'd probably choose that over the K20D too.

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07-13-2021, 12:10 PM - 1 Like	#31
Apet-Sure Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Goldsboro North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,667	Originally posted by clickclick I've read so much about the color of the CCD sensor, I would go for one with that. I"ve thought of buying one just to try firsthand. I think you might be pleased with this experiment. My K-5 IIs and KP produce wonderful images, but there is something a little magical about that CCD sensor in the K10D IMO. Call it 'pixie dust'. Just keep the ISO low.

07-13-2021, 04:47 PM	#32
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,815	Looks like I have my marching orders too for a camera with a CCD sensor.

07-14-2021, 10:24 AM - 1 Like	#33
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,243	Originally posted by clickclick Looks like I have my marching orders too for a camera with a CCD sensor. It's worth playing with one. I get a lot of use from my K200D and K10D. The K20D also had very good colors, and mikesbike is right, the pictures looked sharp with it. I particularly loved the skin tones. But if you do post processing with RAW the sensor dynamic range was too limited. The following CMOS cameras, which all have Sony sensors, have not rendered colors to my liking, up to the K-3 (which needs a bit of work to get the colors to my taste). From the K-S1 on, it seems the Pentax CMOS treatment has mostly caught up, and the following cameras (K-S2, K-70, KP, K-3 III) have gotten progressively better. But CCD cameras still have some nuances in color transitions and in their capturing of luminance that seem to set it apart, so at the prices they go for these days, why not get one to play with?

07-14-2021, 06:54 PM	#34
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,815	Originally posted by ChristianRock It's worth playing with one. I get a lot of use from my K200D and K10D. The K20D also had very good colors, and mikesbike is right, the pictures looked sharp with it. I particularly loved the skin tones. But if you do post processing with RAW the sensor dynamic range was too limited. The following CMOS cameras, which all have Sony sensors, have not rendered colors to my liking, up to the K-3 (which needs a bit of work to get the colors to my taste). From the K-S1 on, it seems the Pentax CMOS treatment has mostly caught up, and the following cameras (K-S2, K-70, KP, K-3 III) have gotten progressively better. But CCD cameras still have some nuances in color transitions and in their capturing of luminance that seem to set it apart, so at the prices they go for these days, why not get one to play with? I feel a GAS attack coming on. Do you recall this thread that @BigMackCam posted? Get "that CCD look" with the K-3 / K-3II and Lightroom - PentaxForums.com

07-14-2021, 07:56 PM	#35
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,243	Originally posted by clickclick I feel a GAS attack coming on. Do you recall this thread that @BigMackCam posted? Get "that CCD look" with the K-3 / K-3II and Lightroom - PentaxForums.com Yes, I do... but since I don't use Lightroom, I was never really able to try these settings out. I do get OK results from RawTherapee - there's a couple of film emulations in HaldClut that I think turn the colors into something far more pleasing than what I get SOOC. Usually I have to fix the WB as well, it's usually on the cold side.

07-15-2021, 01:59 AM	#36
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 9,606	That's a tough choice as all of these are a little old. The Km and K10D use the same sensor and between them I'd choose the K10D I think. I'd probably choose that over the K20D too.

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