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brainwave · 09-27-2021, 02:22 PM

When I used Nikon, I always found the vertical tabbed, vertically scrolled menu more intuitive than Pentax's horizontal pages. The k-3 iii has this menu. What is the likelihood Pentax releases this menu to older DSLRs as well or will they consider it simply not worth the effort?

I wish apart from core imaging library (for IP reasons) the rest of the firmware code was open sourced. Open sourcing would allow us to develop and modify and it would make a truly amazing DSLR experience. So many small features can be added. Is there anyone with reach at Ricoh to talk to them about these ideas?

**jatrax** · 09-27-2021, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by brainwave

What is the likelihood Pentax releases this menu to older DSLRs

Zero.

Originally posted by brainwave

Open sourcing would allow us to develop and modify and it would make a truly amazing DSLR experience.

That would be fun, but honestly I cannot imagine a scenario where Ricoh allows access to the firmware. Just not going to happen. Though I would be pleasantly surprised if it did.

**stevebrot** · 09-27-2021, 07:29 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jatrax

Zero.

This ^ ^ ^

Originally posted by brainwave

Open sourcing would allow us to develop and modify and it would make a truly amazing DSLR experience.

Proprietary hardware for profit designed to use open-source low-level firmware? Surely you jest? If one desires an open source camera interface, it would be good to start with open-source camera hardware.

Steve

biz-engineer · 09-28-2021, 12:57 AM - **1 Like**

Do you mean that you can't get used to the horizontal menu, but you expect the many thousands of other Pentaxians to get used to the vertical menu?

AfterPentax Mark II · 09-28-2021, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by brainwave

What is the likelihood Pentax releases this menu to older DSLRs as well or will they consider it simply not worth the effort?

It seems they considered it, but the problem is that they can not adjust the firmware to have touchscreen capabilities on all the older camera's. Originally the name of the K-3 Mark III was the K-Touch to make clear the difference between the old K-? and this new one, but because of the popular demand for a new K-3 they renamed it to the K-3 Mark III.

brainwave · 09-28-2021, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by AfterPentax Mark II

It seems they considered it, but the problem is that they can not adjust the firmware to have touchscreen capabilities on all the older camera's. Originally the name of the K-3 Mark III was the K-Touch to make clear the difference between the old K-? and this new one, but because of the popular demand for a new K-3 they renamed it to the K-3 Mark III.

Thanks AfterPentax Mark II sama for clarifying that up. Any source that points to how they considered it? Usually, android for example, runs on touch as well as non-touch devices (like desktops) just fine because touch is an input device, as is a mouse and keyboard. Even windows, the mouse is actually optional, you can do 100% of most actions using just the keyboard.

So I am surprised that they could not get the new menu on older pentaxes just because presence of a new feature.

09-27-2021, 02:22 PM	#1
brainwave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 191	K3-III menu on the K1? When I used Nikon, I always found the vertical tabbed, vertically scrolled menu more intuitive than Pentax's horizontal pages. The k-3 iii has this menu. What is the likelihood Pentax releases this menu to older DSLRs as well or will they consider it simply not worth the effort? I wish apart from core imaging library (for IP reasons) the rest of the firmware code was open sourced. Open sourcing would allow us to develop and modify and it would make a truly amazing DSLR experience. So many small features can be added. Is there anyone with reach at Ricoh to talk to them about these ideas?

09-28-2021, 03:30 AM	#5
AfterPentax Mark II Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 856	K-? Originally posted by brainwave What is the likelihood Pentax releases this menu to older DSLRs as well or will they consider it simply not worth the effort? It seems they considered it, but the problem is that they can not adjust the firmware to have touchscreen capabilities on all the older camera's. Originally the name of the K-3 Mark III was the K-Touch to make clear the difference between the old K-? and this new one, but because of the popular demand for a new K-3 they renamed it to the K-3 Mark III.

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jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by brainwave What is the likelihood Pentax releases this menu to older DSLRs Zero. Originally posted by brainwave Open sourcing would allow us to develop and modify and it would make a truly amazing DSLR experience. That would be fun, but honestly I cannot imagine a scenario where Ricoh allows access to the firmware. Just not going to happen. Though I would be pleasantly surprised if it did.

09-27-2021, 07:29 PM - 1 Like	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,004	Originally posted by jatrax Zero. This ^ ^ ^ Originally posted by brainwave Open sourcing would allow us to develop and modify and it would make a truly amazing DSLR experience. Proprietary hardware for profit designed to use open-source low-level firmware? Surely you jest? If one desires an open source camera interface, it would be good to start with open-source camera hardware. Steve

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biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,459	Do you mean that you can't get used to the horizontal menu, but you expect the many thousands of other Pentaxians to get used to the vertical menu?

09-28-2021, 07:58 AM	#6
brainwave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 191 Original Poster	Originally posted by AfterPentax Mark II It seems they considered it, but the problem is that they can not adjust the firmware to have touchscreen capabilities on all the older camera's. Originally the name of the K-3 Mark III was the K-Touch to make clear the difference between the old K-? and this new one, but because of the popular demand for a new K-3 they renamed it to the K-3 Mark III. Thanks AfterPentax Mark II sama for clarifying that up. Any source that points to how they considered it? Usually, android for example, runs on touch as well as non-touch devices (like desktops) just fine because touch is an input device, as is a mouse and keyboard. Even windows, the mouse is actually optional, you can do 100% of most actions using just the keyboard. So I am surprised that they could not get the new menu on older pentaxes just because presence of a new feature.

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