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12-08-2008, 07:25 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by kristoffon Quote
The only thing I regret with my camera selection was choosing the K200D instead of picking the K20D. I really want to upgrade, and I even have a friend interested in buying my camera, OTOH I could wait a little more and get the next model.

What do you guys think? Even if the next model is announced this year it'll probably only be available six months or so from now.
same dilemma, got K200D since May this year, tempted to go K20D before Australian price increases on dslr gear due to exchange rate against US dollar dropping 30+ % but if there's new models on the horizon maybe by time they're released the exchange maybe more favourable ? or it could be worse

some lens in Australia gone up 25-40%, so if bodies go up the same = AUD$1225 (US796) jumping to AUD1531 (US$995) to AUD$1715 (US$1115)

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I've got the K20 and unless the K30 has some really mind-blowing features that the K20 doesn't have and that I will use, I'll most likely wait until the K30's successor before upgrading. On the other hand, if Pentax decided to put a second e-dial on the K300, I could pretty easily be persuaded to upgrade the K200.

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QuoteOriginally posted by cpopham Quote
I recently upgraded from a K100 Super to a K20.
My only regret is not having done so sooner.

ditto.... the K20D is everything I wanted and more.
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When is k30d coming out?

12-08-2008, 08:27 PM   #20
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currently own a K100 and ordered a K20 Saturday morning I am only getting the body for now and will use the lenses I have, but will be looking for a deal on a 16-45 DA soon..

you're going to LOVE it. congrats!

also despite all of the complaints, my 16-50 DA* is tack sharp, a bit more so towards 50 and it is almost completely silent compared to the 16-45, plus it's faster... just something to consider.
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I think that if you wait for the K30D then you're going to be dissapointed. It will be more expensive, and will probably not have enough innovative features to warrant spending so much more on an upgrade.
I have a feeling you'll be proven wrong. Pentax knows that another K10D upgrade (even with its substantially better sensor) won't be competetive in its class. Myself, I would be happy to upgrade to a souped up K20D when I've maxed out what I can do with my K10D. Even the K20D is one hell of a camera for what I do (landscape/static nature/architecture etc.) However, I'll have no faith in owning a Pentax system if that's all they can offer in 2009. I'm hoping the K30D will breathe some new life (new AF, a bit more FPS, more advanced evaluative metering etc) into the Pentax system - if it does I'll be looking to buy one in late 2010/early 2011.
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What features do you need on the K20? I looked at the K20 but ended up pulling the trigger on the K-m because I wouldn't use a lot of the features of the more advanced camera.
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I say get the K20D

I had the K200D, sold it and got the K20D. I love it. I like that you can adjust AF for different lenses. It's performance in low light (AF and image noise) is far superior in my opinion. I like the controls on the body as opposed to in the menus. Here's the kicker (which has been mentioned): the K30D will probably cost somewhere around 1200 to 1500 bucks. You can get the K20D for around 700 right now. When could you get a K30D for that price? Maybe sometime in 2010? I don't know. Will there even be one? Here's something I would consider holding out for though: Samsung's answer to the Micro Four Thirds. I would love to get my hands on a slim little camera with a APS-C sized chip in it. That would be the ultimate in portability.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kristoffon Quote
The only thing I regret with my camera selection was choosing the K200D instead of picking the K20D. I really want to upgrade, and I even have a friend interested in buying my camera, OTOH I could wait a little more and get the next model.

What do you guys think? Even if the next model is announced this year it'll probably only be available six months or so from now.
Kristoff, I had the same regret within a month of buying the K200 when the K20 prices came crashing down. Luckily a colleague took the K200 off me for a fair price. Now I just have to wait for the K20 in the mail. It's public holidays here, and my Adorama shipment is stuck in Dubai since 2 days Should be here any moment now.

IMHO, sell the K200 now and get the K20. No point waiting as there's always something better around the corner. By the time K3X comes out, you'd have clocked a few thousand shots on the K20 already. Next holidays will be the ideal time for your upgrade from K20.

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Being a satisfied K10D owner, I've been pondering this same question recently. This was my thought process:

Original purchase of K10D in January 2008 - $509 AR

Purchase K20D over Thanksgiving (with 25% live cashback and 10% ebay coupon) - net cost $528

Current used value of K10D - $375

So for $150, I get better IQ, high ISO performance, battery life, and a 3 year warranty. Plus the 5000-some clicks off my K10D. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

You can also look at it this way, the K20D will never drop below $600 from B&H, Amazon, or Adorama until late 2009. And used it will probably stay above $400 for another year or two. At $100-150/year of usage it's really cheap for such a high quality body.

I'm not sure what enhancements the K30 will have but for me it won't be enough to buy until the price drops below $1000. I prefer buying towards the end of the product cycle anyways since that's when they deliver the most value.

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"For me, ISO1600 on the K20D is way better than my ISO800 shots on the K10D! I took a ton of shots at a concert last week, all ISO1600 and the quality is fantastic."


Dkittle: That's good to hear. But how did the AF perform and were you using the 50-135? Thanks.
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See, the main problem that I have is the price on the K10D is much better than the K20D, but the K10D is more of a direct comparison to the canon 30D which I have now, and actually kind of like. The problem with Canon and Nikon is that they always leapfrog each other with the smallest upgrades (the last 2 have only been live view and megapixels), so I hope that Pentax doesn't start doing this to keep up, but waits longer to develop a much more advanced body for their cameras.
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QuoteOriginally posted by sflights Quote
See, the main problem that I have is the price on the K10D is much better than the K20D, but the K10D is more of a direct comparison to the canon 30D which I have now, and actually kind of like. The problem with Canon and Nikon is that they always leapfrog each other with the smallest upgrades (the last 2 have only been live view and megapixels), so I hope that Pentax doesn't start doing this to keep up, but waits longer to develop a much more advanced body for their cameras.
The K20D is new and has a three year warranty. Any K10D you'd find now is used and almost out of warranty.

K10D competes with the 40D.

And I wouldn't keep your hopes up for Pentax to develop a super advanced body. They will develop something that is competitive and capable of great IQ, but it won't be as well-rounded as a Canon or Nikon.

It'll still work fine and take excellent photos, provided the photographer knows how to do that...
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QuoteOriginally posted by edl Quote
Being a satisfied K10D owner, I've been pondering this same question recently. This was my thought process:

Original purchase of K10D in January 2008 - $509 AR

Purchase K20D over Thanksgiving (with 25% live cashback and 10% ebay coupon) - net cost $528

Current used value of K10D - $375

So for $150, I get better IQ, high ISO performance, battery life, and a 3 year warranty. Plus the 5000-some clicks off my K10D. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

You can also look at it this way, the K20D will never drop below $600 from B&H, Amazon, or Adorama until late 2009. And used it will probably stay above $400 for another year or two. At $100-150/year of usage it's really cheap for such a high quality body.

I'm not sure what enhancements the K30 will have but for me it won't be enough to buy until the price drops below $1000. I prefer buying towards the end of the product cycle anyways since that's when they deliver the most value.

Is the Live cashback still 25%? You got me thinking now, not good for my pocket
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You think the K10D competes with the 40D? I had always compared it to the 30D.
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