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12-11-2008, 07:05 AM   #16
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the K10D is not the only digital SLR to have it's price drop precipitously when a new model comes out. Look at the prices of eclipsed Canons and Nikons. You just shoulda waited 2 months...

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Cameras are just fancy computers nowadays and you know how fast they plummet :-)

A friend bought a used D200 for $1200 at the same time I bought my K10D last year for $650. Used D200's are down to $700. He "lost" $500. I "lost" $250 when I sold my K10D. We both had a years worth of good pictures we couldn't have gotten w/o them. It's just a cost of enjoying life...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
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When I bought my *istD, I spent somewhat over Can$3K for the camera, grip, kit lens and a couple of sets of rechargable batteries.
Now you can't give them away.
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Wheatfield... if you have an istD you want to give away I will gladly take it off your hands. I'll even pay the postage. I want a body to convert to IR!
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenyee Quote
Cameras are just fancy computers nowadays and you know how fast they plummet :-) ..
How true, when you consider what I paid for my first PC XT clone, then the 386, 486, pentium, then pentium 4, price was dropping for each computer, and at the same time, each computer has more RAM than the previous computer's hard disk

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Well, if that cheers you up, it looks like eventually prices do reach a plateau. I have been looking for a (really) cheap 110D, Ds or DL to convert to IR, and for the life of me I can't find anything under $200, and many go for close to or over $300. With the 200D kit at ~$450, that's whacky.
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QuoteOriginally posted by drwho9437 Quote
So maybe I was just dumb, but I wanted to try Pentax, so I purchased a used K10D after the K20D and hit the market when lots of people were starting to sell the K10Ds to get K20D. The market price at that time was just around 500 dollars for a K10D in perfect shape. 3 months later it is more like 325. I personally thought most of the deprecation had occurred at 500 dollars, and thus I wasn't likely to loose a ton of money on the body if I needed to resell it. I did and I lost 40% of my money. That is HUGE. Very burned I feel. Does Pentax just not have enough used demand to sustain the prices or what? Why so low for a 10 MP camera that is essentially the same as the K20D other than the sensor.
Hmmm lets see my *ist-D was selling for around $1500 (high was $1650 I believe, got mine at $1350 but eventually had $300 in repairs looong before the K10) and now has a market value of approx $250 (KEH used , EX cond) OPP's seems to have plummeted to $200US DS is $250........ so it decreased in value 84% (really more like 88%).............
I can't compare Pentax depreciation w/ any other camera brand but it sure seems to match computer/computer parts depreciation

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QuoteOriginally posted by drwho9437 Quote
So maybe I was just dumb, but I wanted to try Pentax, so I purchased a used K10D after the K20D and hit the market when lots of people were starting to sell the K10Ds to get K20D. The market price at that time was just around 500 dollars for a K10D in perfect shape. 3 months later it is more like 325. I personally thought most of the deprecation had occurred at 500 dollars, and thus I wasn't likely to loose a ton of money on the body if I needed to resell it. I did and I lost 40% of my money. That is HUGE. Very burned I feel. Does Pentax just not have enough used demand to sustain the prices or what? Why so low for a 10 MP camera that is essentially the same as the K20D other than the sensor.
All electronics gadgets are like that nowadays, especially for the DSLR bodies, not solely for Pentax alone.

The once latest gadgets nowadays will turn into garbages very quickely when new models arrive.

If you don't want to lose much money, keep using the old body until it dies (but then to enjoy the latest technology need to pay! And, lose money!), MHO..
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Maybe In 50 Years...

....you can go on "Antiques Roadshow" and get all your money back and then some. I have a few "classic" 2mp early model digital cameras that may be worth 1`/10 of what they cost new i.e. Olympus C-2100 and Fuji 4900. They may not sparkle in terms of high resolution but they are special in my book because they were ahead of their time in 2000 (image stablization,EVF etc) Enjoy what you have now, I have a 2 year old computer that's already outdated.


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QuoteOriginally posted by drwho9437 Quote
So maybe I was just dumb, but I wanted to try Pentax, so I purchased a used K10D after the K20D and hit the market when lots of people were starting to sell the K10Ds to get K20D. The market price at that time was just around 500 dollars for a K10D in perfect shape. 3 months later it is more like 325. I personally thought most of the deprecation had occurred at 500 dollars, and thus I wasn't likely to loose a ton of money on the body if I needed to resell it. I did and I lost 40% of my money. That is HUGE. Very burned I feel. Does Pentax just not have enough used demand to sustain the prices or what? Why so low for a 10 MP camera that is essentially the same as the K20D other than the sensor.
there is a time to buy and time to sell... K10D was available in early 2008 for USD$ 500-600 new and there was a time 5-6 month later when you can sell it for almost the same amount $450-550... you were just late to the party to try it... so do not complain, it is all your fault.
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QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
there is a time to buy and time to sell... K10D was available in early 2008 for USD$ 500-600 new and there was a time 5-6 month later when you can sell it for almost the same amount $450-550... you were just late to the party to try it... so do not complain, it is all your fault.
Good points,
Maybe this will cheer you up...I hope. Think of the millions of people who bought Sony Mavicas or other 1MP or less cameras back in 1999,2000 and paid $1000 or more, now they fetch about $50.00 on EBAY and that's if your lucky. I do a similar hindsight in reverse. Think of all those original Ford Mustangs that sold new in 1964 for $2375, now lok at what they are selling for. Life is a gamble. You could have invested in Enron or AIG stock.

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QuoteOriginally posted by GaryM Quote
I'm confused: does your camera not work properly, or were you buying it as an investment? DSLRs are not comodities, they are tools to make photographs.

Haha... that made me laugh. Thank you.
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My first "good" digital camera was $280 back in 03. I bought a 128MB stick for it at $70 (!) so I could go to Germany and take "lots" of pics.

Now the cameras are worth about $30 on ebay. I'll be buying an 8GB card for my new phone for $15.


Oh, and look at us who got SNES and N64s and PS2s for Christmas back in the day. My N64 was bought in the "rush" of 97 for $300. I can get one for about $30 in 08. The PS2 was $300 in 01, now I can get one for $80ish.

We pay to have the best at a given time, knowing that it can only get better while becoming cheaper.
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QuoteOriginally posted by drwho9437 Quote
So maybe I was just dumb, but I wanted to try Pentax, so I purchased a used K10D after the K20D and hit the market when lots of people were starting to sell the K10Ds to get K20D. The market price at that time was just around 500 dollars for a K10D in perfect shape. 3 months later it is more like 325. I personally thought most of the deprecation had occurred at 500 dollars, and thus I wasn't likely to loose a ton of money on the body if I needed to resell it. I did and I lost 40% of my money. That is HUGE. Very burned I feel. Does Pentax just not have enough used demand to sustain the prices or what? Why so low for a 10 MP camera that is essentially the same as the K20D other than the sensor.
whine whine whine whine
12-11-2008, 11:25 AM   #29
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I find it refreshingly wonderful...

We should be thankful...
Finally someone is only complaining about the resell value of the K10d and not the:

AF speed + Tracking focus ability
Noisy Hi ISO above ISO 400
FF/BF issues
VPN
Unlevel Viewfinder alignment
Under/over exposure with older MF lenses
Soft Jpegs
Slow FPS
Raw Write times
_____________ ADD YOUR's HERE...


And 'Pity the fools'....
The K20d with Kit was at $699 the other night at Adorama... imagine the poor folks who paid full retail for it just a few months ago, and have had months of enjoyment and beautiful photos from it.
As a short or long term investment, these pentax cameras _________!
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QuoteOriginally posted by drwho9437 Quote
So maybe I was just dumb, but I wanted to try Pentax, so I purchased a used K10D after the K20D and hit the market when lots of people were starting to sell the K10Ds to get K20D. The market price at that time was just around 500 dollars for a K10D in perfect shape. 3 months later it is more like 325. I personally thought most of the deprecation had occurred at 500 dollars, and thus I wasn't likely to loose a ton of money on the body if I needed to resell it. I did and I lost 40% of my money. That is HUGE. Very burned I feel. Does Pentax just not have enough used demand to sustain the prices or what? Why so low for a 10 MP camera that is essentially the same as the K20D other than the sensor.
I bought my Nikon D1 in 2001, for $5,000.00 Canadian which was a very good price. The sold new for about $7200.

I think the selling price for a D1 now is $300 more or less.

I think i lost more money than you.

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