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01-23-2009, 08:13 PM   #16
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K10D without question if I had to choose.

Ultimately you should try both out and see which one fits better for you - then decide.

Support for AA's in a K200D is only given to those that haven't used the l/o battery before. The cost of one l/o battery (aftermarket one) is equal to ONE good set of NON rechargeables - which is the only option you gain when going the AA route ("readily available"). Have a spare on hand and shoot all week with flash and chimp and never run out of power.

Good luck with your upgrade!

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I had the same situation as you, I went from K100D to K10D because i want more MP and I hated the AA battery on the K100D. I never used the K200D, but I believe K200D just a improved K100D. But K10D is totally different, better battery life, and much better than the K100D. Performance wise, Both K10D and K200D are about the same. But i like the K10D more. Scenes mode on a DSLR is unnecessary. So go for a K10D, you will love it.
01-26-2009, 04:02 AM   #18
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QuoteOriginally posted by Edvinas Quote
K10D has two control dials. That alone would be enough for me to go for K10D. If you try camera with those two dials you'll never look back...

Also K10D has external switches/dials/buttons for AF point selection, exposure mode selection, for bracketing.

All of this doesn't make pictures better however makes easier to take those pictures.
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Only had I find a cheaper 2nd hand k10d I wouldn't had got my k200d as 2nd body.
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Both take good pictures and you won't regret buying any of those two bodys.

That said a young dslr starter who likes good saturated sharp pictures out of cam should opt for the K200D. If you don't start with raw the JPG-Engine is a little bit more p&s-like untweaked and fits the eye of a beginner.

If it can get a little more sophisticated (say you don't need automatic scene modes to choose the right aperture and exposure in a scene) the K10D is the better body offering a more technical and tool-like approach.

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01-26-2009, 11:15 AM   #20
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Getting down to crunch time!

I am really appreciative of the informative responses here. As I do more and more research into the two cameras I am having difficulty spending the extra bucks on the K200D. I am looking at spending about $400 for a K10D demo that has been recertified by Pentax and comes with the full Pentax warranty. Most of the K200D I am seeing go for well over that amount.

Can anyone tell me if Pentax addressed the "Phantom Pixel" problem with the K10D? Here is an article I read about it:

Pentax K10D Digital Camera Phantompixels - Full Review - The Imaging Resource!

Personally I don't know how big of an issue this is and I would think that any decent photo editing software would be able to deal with the problem if it occurs. It sounds to me like this is basically a firmware/software issue but I don't know much about that, yet, in reference to digital cameras, just p.c. components. Should this sway me toward the K200D or should I not worry too much about it?

I will check back later this evening as I am off to the camera shop to do some more drooling...aahh...I mean shopping. Thanks folks.
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I appreciate this thread as well, as it's exactly the same dilemma I've been wrestling with since November. Starting with my K110D now, I'm trying to figure out how to evaluate objectively the difference between a used K10D in the $350 range, a new K200D in the $450 range, or a new K20D for $750. Besides dollar figures, it's been extremely difficult to figure out which step is going to give me the boost that keeps me the happiest for the longest, and then I have the added buyer's remorse potential from not waiting for Pentax to make an announcement about the next gen. I just KNOW if I buy something on Tuesday, I'll get it on Thursday and they'll announce the K30D on Friday, and whatever I buy will be available in demo condition used for half the price the next Monday!
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What about new K200D in the $350 range? See the prodigital2000 auctions on Ebay.

I think these kind of prices *already* reflect the fact that a replacement is coming soon; I wouldn't expect to see any significant further drop as a result of any forthcoming announcement.
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QuoteOriginally posted by winglik Quote
I had the same situation as you, I went from K100D to K10D because i want more MP and I hated the AA battery on the K100D. I never used the K200D, but I believe K200D just a improved K100D. But K10D is totally different, better battery life, and much better than the K100D.
K200D is, to put it roughly, the innards of the K10D (same sensor) in a K100D body. So it has aspects of each. Battery life is approximately the same between all these cameras - about 500 shots per charge with a good quality battery. I'm assuming you hadn't discovered Eneloops or other modern hybrid cells if you were unahppy with the battery performance on the K100D.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
What about new K200D in the $350 range? See the prodigital2000 auctions on Ebay.

I think these kind of prices *already* reflect the fact that a replacement is coming soon; I wouldn't expect to see any significant further drop as a result of any forthcoming announcement.

Marc,
Thanks for your input here. I agree about the prices. While on ebay folks should take a look at what the ist-d, k100d & k110d are still bringing since their successors have come out. I think that speaks volumes for the quality and reputation of Pentax. My K110D will fetch about 50-75% of what I paid for it 3 years ago!

I have been watching the auctions from prodigital and others. Thus far, all of the K200D cameras I have bid on have gone for over $400 with some over $500.

Given that I learned to shoot with a K-1000 Asahi I am very comfortable with manual cameras. Also I am putting my son through college and trade school so, while I am not poor, I must spend within my means. That is why the K20 is out for now. I should know later tonight if I am going to get the K10D or the K200D.

I will let you all know how I did. Thanks for all of the help.

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I dood it. Now I gets a whuppin'!
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Congratulations, I think.

Which one did you go for?

*edit* I see your other thread now, so disregard

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My preference goes to the K20D but if I were to choose between the K10D and K200D, it would be obvious:
The K200D has all the new tech and is a newer model (debugged).
It has a 2.7 LCD vs. 2.5 of K10
It also has the dust mapping (dust alert function) which the K10 doesn't have.
The extra dials of the K10 doesn't mean that you can't perform the same functions with the K200..only you don't have that shortcut button but you can still make the same adjustments.
And of course the AA batts that you can buy anywhere if you run out of juice.
Otherwise, both have the same sensor, same weathersealing, almost the same fps. They both have an upper LCD, etc.
Plus you don't have to update the firmware (as with K10D) to be able to use SDM lenses or some other stuff the firmware update is for.
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K10D on the way!
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Congrats! Either way you chose, it is still you who would matter and how you use your tool!
Again, congrats on your new purchase..and many great pictures on the way.
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