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01-24-2009, 08:28 PM   #1
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Much has been said & written about Pentax jpegs (to the point of nausea) and I read again this week in post somewhere this quip about "poor" jpegs.

Whilst going over some shots this morning, I have turned these up, all shot in jpeg, Pentax *istDS & Sigma 18-125. These have had no pp at all, not even straightened.

At the risk of earning myself a slap in the head...please comment on these shots...tell me why these are so bad.

Hopefully this will put some minds at rest on this so called "issue".

Cheers.


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wow where is this? sooo pretty
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Nice shots. Not at all soft.

Out of curiosity, do you shoot with the factory defaults for sharpening and contrast?

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wow where is this? sooo pretty
A lake between Queenstown & Wanaka in New Zealand's South Island. It is one stunningly beautiful place.

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What issue?

I would love to be able to tell you why those shots are so bad but I can't because I just think that they are so good.

How much better than that do "they" want?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mallee Boy Quote
Much has been said & written about Pentax jpegs (to the point of nausea) and I read again this week in post somewhere this quip about "poor" jpegs.

Whilst going over some shots this morning, I have turned these up, all shot in jpeg, Pentax *istDS & Sigma 18-125. These have had no pp at all, not even straightened.

At the risk of earning myself a slap in the head...please comment on these shots...tell me why these are so bad.

Hopefully this will put some minds at rest on this so called "issue".

Cheers.

Actually "uncle phil" liked the k100 jpg's. The k10's not so much..
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Nice shots. Not at all soft.

Out of curiosity, do you shoot with the factory defaults for sharpening and contrast?

Steve
Hi Steve,
That camera (*ist DS) is set to factory defaults, its packed away now, replaced by the K200 & K20. I normally shoot RAW, but on that trip I had the *ist DS set to jpegs as a backup to the K20D.
Thanks for looking.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mallee Boy Quote
Hi Steve,
That camera (*ist DS) is set to factory defaults, its packed away now, replaced by the K200 & K20. I normally shoot RAW, but on that trip I had the *ist DS set to jpegs as a backup to the K20D.
Thanks for looking.
Thanks for the additional info. The reason why I asked is that many K10D and K20D users on this forum that shoot jpeg do so with the sharpness and contrast bumped up to compensate for the factory settings. I had never heard of any need with the *istDS. As we that own these cameras know, the output is every bit as good or better than the competition, though at times it takes some tuning to bring it out.

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Here are two more shot from the same location with the K20D & Sig 24mm. Raw & converted using Lightroom V1.

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Thanks for the additional info. The reason why I asked is that many K10D and K20D users on this forum that shoot jpeg do so with the sharpness and contrast bumped up to compensate for the factory settings. I had never heard of any need with the *istDS. As we that own these cameras know, the output is every bit as good or better than the competition, though at times it takes some tuning to bring it out.

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Correction Steve....it was set to Bright mode.
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My two reasons for shooting RAW:

1) I want to control the process to the end result, not let the camera do it.

2) I want the option to re-process the RAW file later given inevitable advances in post-processing software.

And your posted jpegs are swell. Note that the K20D shots could punch up by pinching the levels range a bit.

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This just proves that if you know your stuff, you'll get good pic out of camera no matter the settings...
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QuoteOriginally posted by jbinpg Quote
My two reasons for shooting RAW:

1) I want to control the process to the end result, not let the camera do it.

2) I want the option to re-process the RAW file later given inevitable advances in post-processing software.

And your posted jpegs are swell. Note that the K20D shots could punch up by pinching the levels range a bit.

Jack
Does it mean you keep all your RAWs?
boy if I did it I'd have wall full of CDs/DVDs with archives or I'd have to buy new HDD every 6 months...
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Yes, I keep all my non-tosser RAWs. Disk space is cheap these days.

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Beautiful shots, Grant. Nothing wrong with these jpegs or the jpegs from the K20, which I use from time to time.
That's a lovely part of NZ. I made a few road trips too & through this area, when I lived in CHCH.
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