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01-31-2009, 11:42 PM   #1
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lens or body..

Hi there..

Im wondering if i should upgrade mygx10 to a k20d.. why?

cleaner higher iso (at the cost of a worce iso100? and long exposures?)
small improvements in most things the k10d can do (better white balance?, PTTL? faster focus?)
the newer features (live view would be good for manual focus, 21fps thing sounds fun)
lens adjustment (just incase i ever need it)

I can get a k20d for about 480 atm (100quid cash back) with the 18-50II (i have the 18-50I)

Or should i get a new lens instead?? i really like the look of the 50-135 or maby the sigma 50-150 (is there much of a difference between them?) hell maby even sigma 70-200.

I have asked this in another forum and a few have said the body but most said the lens, im just wondering what any of you would do in this situation , i dont always have alot of cash to spend on my camera so id like try make the right decision .

I currently have the following..

gx10, sigma 530dg super
sigma 24-60 f2.8, 18-50mm, 50-200mm, ka 50mm f1.7
vivitar series 1 70-200 f3.5, helios m44 55mm f2, helios 135mm f2.8, hoya 28mm f2.8

02-01-2009, 12:09 AM   #2
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If you are happy with your current camera, invest in the glass.
02-01-2009, 04:46 AM   #3
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Sorry to burst the bubble but the cashback offer finished yesterday. PHOTO - PENTAX U.K. Limited

In any event - if the only benefits of upgrading the body are small incremental changes in your body then invest in glass.

As for the investment in a lens - what do you shoot? The 50-135 appears to be one hell of a lens (at least judging by some of the images and opinion posted in this forum) so I'd believe you'd be more than happy with it, if not wowed, but are you looking for something longer?

I've been going through this for the last 3 months or so, so guilty as charged. Is it the bright lights, bells and whistles, extra megapixels, extra features that appeal in the body? If so, are you REALLY, REALLY, going to exploit these for all they're worth? If you're not too sure go for the glass.
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I think I'd go for the lens, if I were you. Your investment will hold its value longer. Think of it this way...which one of these will be the first to be replaced by a better model, the K20D or the 50-135mm? Now, in 5-10 years, which will have held more of its value?

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yer thats a good point, glass last's longer than a body.. and with each new body ur old glass gets a free upgrade to sorta :P

The one thing i miss coming from my fz8 to my gx10 tho was the live view.. i love the optical view, dont get me wrong.. but for macro its a pain in the... and i wear glass's and i find it hard to focus on an object (the closer to infinity the harder) with my 50mm f1.7 at times.

I guess the glass would make more sense, the k30d will probably come out with video (seems to be the trend these days) and it would make me want to upgrade the k20d quickly :P

the 50-135 sounds nice but how dose it stack up to the 50-150 from sigma? Ive been hearing horror story's about pentax's smd motors failing... what one seems to render the better img? (bokeh is important to me to).
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I would recommend getting the K20D. It is hands down better than the K10D and not an incremental upgrade imo. Why K20D?

1) No back or front focusing issues. If there were any, you can adjust it yourself
2) Better AF
3) Better WB control
4) Better resolution and dynamic range from the great sensor
5) Better noise control, especially at high ISOs
6) Colour rendition is better, no more oversaturated reds typical of CCD sensors
7) Jpegs are better straight from the camera
8) Bigger LCD monitor that can be calibrated
9) Better battery life
10) The intervalometer is fun to use
11) Live View may not be perfect but it's there should you need it
12) Quieter
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I have spent about 3k on lenses since the K20D has been released, not even for a second did I want to use that money to upgrade my K10D. I have a dozen lenses I would want to buy before that....if the iso performance AND AF tracking speed markedly improves with the K30D, then my next purchase will be that.....if there is a marked improvement in DR as well, then I will sell my current lenses to get the K30D
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I agree with pcarfan...until the K30 comes out with much improved ISO, much better AF, and even greater dynamic's lens time.

The K10D is an excellent performer and didn't get worse just because the updated K20D came out.


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money in lens. always.

and K10d is a good reflex!
you can wait k30d ;-)
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I would invest in the lens at this time as some new stuff will be coming out soon (as usual)...

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i'll play the devils advocate and say to buy the k20d.... then proceed to sell your body to fund the purchasing of new lenses....
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QuoteOriginally posted by creampuff Quote
I would recommend getting the K20D. It is hands down better than the K10D and not an incremental upgrade imo....
There's me talking about glass, siding with glass...and you have to go and do something like that! I'm going to have to start aaaallllll over again.


Ker-ching! Another set of 's fall into an imaginary pot of cash to fund a K20D/30D.

I'm going to hibernate until the Spring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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