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02-09-2009, 05:27 PM   #16
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carry around camera

i won a k2000 on ebay bid for 370 which included shipping. the k2000 is not light but it feels solid. the battery life is good. the menu system is real easy. the af is faster that my k100d super. the af seems faster. search flicker groups for k2000 pictures.

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My knock-about/back-up is my old K100D--it's great!
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Herman Lee: If you like JPEG, good HIGH ISO quality, wide - long zoom = Fuji F100fd (very cheap right now) or wait for F200fd exr.

I have the F100fd that I bought last year with rebate, amazing little p&s camera.
My friend thought I used my DSLR when actually it's from my F100fd.
Yes, I could not agree more. Some of the Fuji P & S cameras are remarkable. If you are after low light and high ISO quality, the older 31fd is actually better. Of course, much of this has to do with the 6mp sensor of the 31fd. But for a more all-around performer, the F100d, with 10mm wider and 12 mp, would be a better selection. They both are great bargains--you can get either model for around or under $250 right now. I think a lot of folks would be amazed if they looked at the ISO 400 and 800 of the 31fd.
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what about a k10d without battery grip?

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Just sold my f100fd and picked up a Panasonic LX-3. Ned Bunnell is a great salesman for the other guys
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LX-3 - even Pentax love it

Pentax gets major street-cred boost, shows why it's different - 1001 Noisy Cameras

BTW, I think this blog entry NED BUNNELL: Leica D-Lux 4 shows why Pentax is so good, and so different.
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Not a specific recommendation but a general one --

If you're a control freak like me, look for a small camera with manual controls. I'm seriously out-of-my-element if all I have are "landscape" and "portrait" and "sport" and similar scene modes.

Give me aperture-priority, shutter-priority, manual! Not many P&S cameras have these, but the ones I have owned (Pentax Optio 550, Casio EX-Z750, Casio EX-Z850, all now discontinued) all have, and I have used them extensively.
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How about the Panasonic DMC Lx3?

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Thnak you for all the replies...lot's of good advice and I've been following up. I've been doing a lot of thinking...informed thinking...as a result of the replies and I went down to one of the full service big dealers around here and checked out the cameras that I'm thinking about.

I tried a KM, known, I think in the States as a K2000 and a Canon G10...again. I lined the two up and the KM is bigger, feels a bit heavier but takes better pictures, can be used for a second body alongside my K10D.

The Canon G10 is smaller, jewel like, has all the controls out side the body but...it has that small sensor that no matter how many MP's just can't compete pix wise.

They didn't have an LX3....apparently they are in short supply.

At this point as the camera is going to be a knock around I'm thinking to check out places and see if they have a new old stock K100D...or wait for a sale on a KM.
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I have a G9 and would have sold it if I didn't come accross a good deal on an underwater housing. From what I have read on the G10, it still suffers the same noise problem as the G9. It does shoot wider which is a plus but wouldn't be enough for me to buy it. I would do as you are thinking now and go for a second Pentax body. I have a K110D and thought I would stop using it once I got the K10D but that is not the case. The K110D works wonders at high iso compared to the K10D.
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The camera on my stick-it-in-my-pocket list the the Pentax W60 or this year's replacement. It rates very well on Chasseur d'Images tests, and it's waterproof to 3 m (10 feet). I'm not, so it should do me well. In the meantime I still use from time to time the Pentax 120SW (28-120 equiv) pocketable 35mm that I got to go with the MZ-S.
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Carry a 6x7 around for 2-3 weeks. Then switch to a k200d and you won't worry about it too much!
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Carry a 6x7 around for 2-3 weeks. Then switch to a k200d and you won't worry about it too much!
I had a 6 X 7 Pentax for one weekend (rental)...lovely camera, but the heaviest camera I ever used. It broke my tripod (head). As a result I bought a heavy duty Leitz Tiltall...about 25 years ago. That thing is built like a tank....I don't think it will ever break.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
Carry a 6x7 around for 2-3 weeks. Then switch to a k200d and you won't worry about it too much!
Ain't that the truth!

I was at Canada's Pacific Rim National Park one day and wandered, camera and tripod in hand, backpack with the other lenses on my back, to where we had a good view of the California Sea Lion haul out. It wasn't quite big enough to be an island. To get there the only way is down the cliff on a sandy trail, then across the sandy beach for quite a way. There I found a gentleman with a rig that I really drooled over. Pentax 67 II, 200mm lens, surveyor's tripod. He must have been a body builder to drag that down there. And now he had to take it back up again. IIRC, there was a bag with some extra lenses in it, just in case. I don't think my KX, 50/1.8, 28/3.5, 70-210 and 1.4X weighed what his tripod did, let alone the rest of it. But what a gorgeous viewfinder!.
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I've been using my K10D as my carry-around camera for almost a year. Last year, I got my istDS out of mothballs to replace it... and you know what? I didn't. I couldn't bring myself to carry anything but the most durable camera around. The istDS is a fine camera, but in effect it's my reserve camera in case anything happens to the K10D!

I've gotten spoiled, clearly
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