K20D body only or kit?

madisonphotogrl · 04-05-2009, 07:41 AM

Ok. So I am upgrading from the K10D to the K20D. I have heard so many positive things about the 18-55mm II vs the original one. I was never really satisfied with the 18-55mm that came with the K10D. I would really like the wide angle of it. I have the 40mm f2.8 and the 50mm f1.4 and then a telephoto. Should I get the new kit lens or just the body?

FYI I am getting the K20D and keeping the K10D to give to my husband and also to use as a back up...

kathyk · 04-05-2009, 07:52 AM

I never had the 18-55I, but now I do have the 18-55DAL which is optically like the II, and I'd say it's worth having, esepcially if you get it for a nominal price.

Might make a very nice lens for your husband to use on the K10D.

res3567 · 04-05-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by madisonphotogrl

Ok. So I am upgrading from the K10D to the K20D. I have heard so many positive things about the 18-55mm II vs the original one. I was never really satisfied with the 18-55mm that came with the K10D. I would really like the wide angle of it. I have the 40mm f2.8 and the 50mm f1.4 and then a telephoto. Should I get the new kit lens or just the body?

FYI I am getting the K20D and keeping the K10D to give to my husband and also to use as a back up...

If you don't mind spending a little more, get the kit. The 18-55II is a better lens and you could use the first lens(and body) as a backup. Also your husband will have a kit setup that is almost as comprable to yours.

**felixkh** · 04-05-2009, 09:23 AM

I'll say the same thing. Go for the K20D Kit.

alehel · 04-05-2009, 10:20 AM

I replaced my kit lens with the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 Macro lens and I'm extremely pleased with it, but it will of course be more expensive, but that would be my personal choice.

winglik · 04-05-2009, 10:37 AM

I don't think there is dramatic difference between I & II. The kit lens is good to have, but i don't think you will use it that much since you have DA 40mm and FA 50mm. At the end it really comes to the price difference. Anything over $100 is not worth it.

Marc Sabatella · 04-05-2009, 12:20 PM

Much as I love the DA40, I'd be frustrated too if that was the widest lens I had. I'd either get the kit zoom or maybe a prime in whatever focal length interests you. If you don't have much experience with focal lengths wider than 40mm, I'd get the zoom - then maybe you'll learn from experience what focal length you might like in a wider prime. I find I like 28mm a lot, so I got an M28/2.8 (which costs no more than the kit lens). Although that's still not very wide, it's enough that I normally leave the kit lens at home. But I'm happy to have the zoom for when I know I *will* want something wider than 28mm.

Last edited by Marc Sabatella; 04-13-2009 at 09:40 AM.

Confused · 04-05-2009, 12:57 PM

Hi madisonphotogrl

Whoa there, darlin'

Quote:

FYI I am getting the K20D and keeping the K10D to give to my husband

Sure seems like your significant other half is getting the rough end of the deal here, sweetie. Instead of palming him off with your unwanted cast-off's, why not go the whole hog and buy your long-suffering hubbie a matching K20D too ? After all, as the well-worn adage goes: "what's good for the goose" etc….

……retires to convenient nuclear safety bunker and waits for the inevitable sparks to fly……kaboom !

Best regards
Richard (MCP life member….lol !)

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://womenshistory.about.com/cs/60s70s/g/gl_mc...P1yoLAVARoRDXQ

madisonphotogrl · 04-05-2009, 02:31 PM

Confused...
The K10D isn't a cast off. My husband really likes it.. And are you wiling to pay the extra $700 for a second K20D?

Confused · 04-05-2009, 03:44 PM

Hi again madisonphotogrl

I trust you realise I was just "pulling your leg" a little and am relieved to hear that hubby is totally happy with the situation.

Best regards
Richard

res3567 · 04-05-2009, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by madisonphotogrl

Confused...
The K10D isn't a cast off. My husband really likes it.. And are you wiling to pay the extra $700 for a second K20D?

He is getting a great camera. I am going to follow in your footsteps and get me a K20D also. I will try to give mine to my wife, but she doesn't like sophisicated cameras. Even if I set it up in full auto, it is still intimidating to her. Darn! Looks like I'm gone have two GREAT cameras!

madisonphotogrl · 04-05-2009, 07:52 PM

Confused.. i just thought you had a lot of extra camera money! LOL of course if I could afford to get my husband a K20D too.

**Skewed** · 04-08-2009, 07:37 PM

I bought the K20D kit, and after using it for a week, I bought the DA 16-45, which I like a lot. Maybe I just got a bad copy of the 18-55 II, but mine does not do justice to the K20D's sensor. Since you already have good primes, you may be disappointed with the kit lens.

**mike.hiran** · 04-12-2009, 09:48 PM

The difference in price on Amazon is currently $120... 790 vs 670. I've seen kit lenses go on the marketplace here for around $80, and I bet you could get one for even less. In fact I think I've seen the 16-45 go for the mid 200's in the marketplace recently... from what I've heard, I think I'd go with the 16-45 instead since I've heard it's sharper at wider apertures than the kit. If you can get the kit for $80 and below difference, I'd say go for it as you can always get your money back by selling it later...

Good luck w/ your purchase!

christinelandon · 04-13-2009, 01:12 AM

You could get the new kit lens and share it between you and hubby. The old kit lens could become the backup wide-angle lens for you, and the main lens for the K10D unless you don't plan to shoot the new one on any given outing. Then hubby could shoot the newer one.

04-05-2009, 07:41 AM	#1
madisonphotogrl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 270	K20D body only or kit? Ok. So I am upgrading from the K10D to the K20D. I have heard so many positive things about the 18-55mm II vs the original one. I was never really satisfied with the 18-55mm that came with the K10D. I would really like the wide angle of it. I have the 40mm f2.8 and the 50mm f1.4 and then a telephoto. Should I get the new kit lens or just the body? FYI I am getting the K20D and keeping the K10D to give to my husband and also to use as a back up...

04-05-2009, 12:57 PM	#8
Confused Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,067	Hi madisonphotogrl Whoa there, darlin' Quote: FYI I am getting the K20D and keeping the K10D to give to my husband Sure seems like your significant other half is getting the rough end of the deal here, sweetie. Instead of palming him off with your unwanted cast-off's, why not go the whole hog and buy your long-suffering hubbie a matching K20D too ? After all, as the well-worn adage goes: "what's good for the goose" etc…. ……retires to convenient nuclear safety bunker and waits for the inevitable sparks to fly……kaboom ! Best regards Richard (MCP life member….lol !) http://www.google.com/url?q=http://womenshistory.about.com/cs/60s70s/g/gl_mc...P1yoLAVARoRDXQ Last edited by Confused; 04-05-2009 at 01:16 PM.

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04-05-2009, 07:52 AM	#2
kathyk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan/USA Posts: 173	I never had the 18-55I, but now I do have the 18-55DAL which is optically like the II, and I'd say it's worth having, esepcially if you get it for a nominal price. Might make a very nice lens for your husband to use on the K10D.

04-05-2009, 09:07 AM	#3
res3567 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,876	Originally posted by madisonphotogrl Ok. So I am upgrading from the K10D to the K20D. I have heard so many positive things about the 18-55mm II vs the original one. I was never really satisfied with the 18-55mm that came with the K10D. I would really like the wide angle of it. I have the 40mm f2.8 and the 50mm f1.4 and then a telephoto. Should I get the new kit lens or just the body? FYI I am getting the K20D and keeping the K10D to give to my husband and also to use as a back up... If you don't mind spending a little more, get the kit. The 18-55II is a better lens and you could use the first lens(and body) as a backup. Also your husband will have a kit setup that is almost as comprable to yours.

04-05-2009, 09:23 AM	#4
felixkh Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,201	I'll say the same thing. Go for the K20D Kit.

04-05-2009, 10:20 AM	#5
alehel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	I replaced my kit lens with the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 Macro lens and I'm extremely pleased with it, but it will of course be more expensive, but that would be my personal choice.

04-05-2009, 10:37 AM	#6
winglik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 258	I don't think there is dramatic difference between I & II. The kit lens is good to have, but i don't think you will use it that much since you have DA 40mm and FA 50mm. At the end it really comes to the price difference. Anything over $100 is not worth it.

04-05-2009, 12:20 PM	#7
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Much as I love the DA40, I'd be frustrated too if that was the widest lens I had. I'd either get the kit zoom or maybe a prime in whatever focal length interests you. If you don't have much experience with focal lengths wider than 40mm, I'd get the zoom - then maybe you'll learn from experience what focal length you might like in a wider prime. I find I like 28mm a lot, so I got an M28/2.8 (which costs no more than the kit lens). Although that's still not very wide, it's enough that I normally leave the kit lens at home. But I'm happy to have the zoom for when I know I will want something wider than 28mm. Last edited by Marc Sabatella; 04-13-2009 at 09:40 AM.

04-05-2009, 02:31 PM	#9
madisonphotogrl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 270 Original Poster	Confused... The K10D isn't a cast off. My husband really likes it.. And are you wiling to pay the extra $700 for a second K20D?

04-05-2009, 03:44 PM	#10
Confused Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,067	Hi again madisonphotogrl I trust you realise I was just "pulling your leg" a little and am relieved to hear that hubby is totally happy with the situation. Best regards Richard

04-05-2009, 06:16 PM	#11
res3567 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,876	Originally posted by madisonphotogrl Confused... The K10D isn't a cast off. My husband really likes it.. And are you wiling to pay the extra $700 for a second K20D? He is getting a great camera. I am going to follow in your footsteps and get me a K20D also. I will try to give mine to my wife, but she doesn't like sophisicated cameras. Even if I set it up in full auto, it is still intimidating to her. Darn! Looks like I'm gone have two GREAT cameras!

04-05-2009, 07:52 PM	#12
madisonphotogrl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 270 Original Poster	Confused.. i just thought you had a lot of extra camera money! LOL of course if I could afford to get my husband a K20D too.

04-08-2009, 07:37 PM	#13
Skewed Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Mateo, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 179	I bought the K20D kit, and after using it for a week, I bought the DA 16-45, which I like a lot. Maybe I just got a bad copy of the 18-55 II, but mine does not do justice to the K20D's sensor. Since you already have good primes, you may be disappointed with the kit lens.

04-12-2009, 09:48 PM	#14
mike.hiran Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Location: portland Photos: Albums Posts: 1,491	The difference in price on Amazon is currently $120... 790 vs 670. I've seen kit lenses go on the marketplace here for around $80, and I bet you could get one for even less. In fact I think I've seen the 16-45 go for the mid 200's in the marketplace recently... from what I've heard, I think I'd go with the 16-45 instead since I've heard it's sharper at wider apertures than the kit. If you can get the kit for $80 and below difference, I'd say go for it as you can always get your money back by selling it later... Good luck w/ your purchase!

04-13-2009, 01:12 AM	#15
christinelandon Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 812	You could get the new kit lens and share it between you and hubby. The old kit lens could become the backup wide-angle lens for you, and the main lens for the K10D unless you don't plan to shoot the new one on any given outing. Then hubby could shoot the newer one.