Well, it's morning where I am; accept it as a pleasant greeting whatever the time of day might be where you are. I complement you on your resilience. After yesterdays barrage, I thought you might give up and disappear.
Not to restart the shutter lag discussion, but I went and got a manual camera(3 different brands), an early electronic offering, a modern simple electronic unit, a top of the line fully auto film body (2), and three different digital SLRs (4 bodies). I'm surprised by what I felt!
The all manual units have a long take-up before a sold release point can be felt, then a small hard spot that causes an almost impossible to determine point of release and a small travel to the stop of the button motion. Much like feeling two surfaces rub until the magic moment when it fires.
The modern electronic releases were actually quite similar: a take-up period where slack is removed, a stiff point and then pop. As I traveled up the scale toward more professional bodies the slack became less and less and the stiff part more and more distinct. But I was never able to discern any exact release point except on the PZ-1p-that has a very soft, nearly inaudible click.
The digitals were all similar: very short slack period, a stiffening and then pop. No click, no exact point of fire. Again as I went from model to model and higher and higher toward the professional models the action became shorter and short. The K10d's that I have are positively hair-triggered compared to the *-ist D or any film electronic camera and so far from the feel of an old manual as to not be comparable.
There is a lot of activity with the auto capable camera's: focus, exposure and who knows what else. With the K10d you need to turn all that off and work in manual to
feel-out the shutter release. And you must have both proper exposure settings and something in focus because so much of the electronics is still operating when the user thinks it's off that you would be surprised.
In a quiet room, with proper subject, light and some time to reflect on all that happened yesterday, then actually testing revealed that the K10d is almost alive in one's hand as you go about taking photos. As long as one goes with the
feeling it seems to work just fine, but... Spooky.
Shake reduction is one of those, gotta-feel-it things. You know it's on because you can check the switch, but you don't really feel anything. Later when you examine the EXIF and see some of the truly strange low exposure value setting is when it becomes most impressive. But like before it's almost a mystical thing; as you set yourself for a shot, you get this feeling that SR is right over your shoulder making sure things work-out well.
I've shot all the modes on both bodies. This is a no frills camera-no scene modes, no free lunch so to speak. Each mode has a particular thinking that is required. Just because you set Av priority, don't stop thinking about Aperture. Don't worry about it, but never just give-in and let the camera do the work--that's an unpleasant surprise in progress!
Unlike other cameras, one must keep the K10 shooting mode constantly in the back of the mind and use techniques that compliment the mode. And take careful note of Manual. You need a very complete understanding of exposure if you want
that to work.
Noise is so dependent on proper exposure technique that I feel people who have noise problems have simply shut off their own brains. I shoot a lot of sports action. And then switch to more pedestrian subjects like family snaps and slow moving event photography. Hundreds of frames per hour, dozens and dozens of games and events. Inside and outside. At all ISO. Compared to similar shooting activities with the *Ist-D, my post processing for noise is almost non-existent. Noise just isn't a problem if the exposures are well considered.
RAW conversion in camera is very good; again it all depends on how optimal the exposure settings might be. And the WB. If you shot slide film extensively, and you did it right, then RAW conversion in the camera will give you immediately printable results, straight from the camera.
Any adverse lighting condition is problematic for any auto focus/auto exposure camera, period. As the light's exposure value drops, the user must compensate with manual focus/more careful metering, even to the point of trickery (i.e. focus on something you can see, lock it, then recompose).
The K10d's auto focus and auto exposure systems are very sensitive to small changes. Here again the term hair-trigger seems to apply. If there is a bright reflection and one drags a sensor across it while composing the scene, the camera will respond. If something moves across the frame it may re-focus. As more and more automation is engaged, the user will first find oneself in a tug-of-war with what the camera thinks is proper. With all automation engaged it may become all-out combat!
The K10d is fun to shoot!
It's no frills.
It will behave only when the user is in full control.
It requires practice.
It will produce prints that are an exact representation of the users skill and knowledge! This is undoubtedly the source of many peoples 'problems' with the device!
Originally posted by steffi So how effective is Shake Reduction as this is a major feature for this body.
Secondly, how do you benefit from the unique modes the K10D supports ie. ISO sensativity mode etc? Likewise the Shutter & Aperture AE mode? Do most people simply make use of Tv and Av here?
How does the K10D perform compared to others above ISO 800 WRT to noise?
Who actually uses raw processing inside the camera?
What if any is the downside of having no AF assist lamp?