Pentax K-7 with DP1 field monitor

falconeye · 04-28-2009, 04:53 PM

I am considering combining the K-7 with a field monitor like the DP1 from SmallHD
SmallHD.com - 8.9" High Definition - the DP1.

This is a 9" 720p monitor weighting ~800g. It should be hot-shoe mountable with the accesories coming out for the DP1. It connects to K-7 via its HDMI port. The monitor is wider than the K-7 by 50mm on each side.

This should allow for much better control of manual focus and composition than using the screen. In the studio.

Does anybody know if the new grip for K-7 (D-BG4) has a power outlet to connect the screen to?

Does the hot shoe supply power supporting a constant 10W (this is as much as the DP1 draws)?

Should I mount using a bracket to tripod socket rather than the hot shoe?

Is there an alternative to the DP1, maybe a smaller 720p screen?

Does anybody have experience with this combo (or any field monitor ...)?

Last edited by falconeye; 04-28-2009 at 04:59 PM.

flyer · 04-28-2009, 05:13 PM

Nobody can answer your questions because the K-7 hasn't been released yet. All we have here is speculation and supposition. And dreams.

falconeye · 04-28-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by flyer

Nobody can answer your questions because the K-7 hasn't been released yet. All we have here is speculation and supposition. And dreams.

Ok, maybe not many have experience with the K-7 yet. Some do, though. And their number will increase in a couple of weeks.

And part of my question was generic.

Any experience with a field monitor connected via HDMI?

Quension · 04-29-2009, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

I am considering combining the K-7 with a field monitor like the DP1 from SmallHD
SmallHD.com - 8.9" High Definition - the DP1

Quote:

Does anybody know if the new grip for K-7 (D-BG4) has a power outlet to connect the screen to?

Does the hot shoe supply power supporting a constant 10W (this is as much as the DP1 draws)?

I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek or not, but in case it's not: no, you won't be powering anything like this from a camera. Separate power supply only.

MPrince · 04-29-2009, 02:53 AM

That's pretty funny.

falconeye wants to hook up a product that has not yet been released to the marketplace to a product that hasn't even been offically announced to the marketplace.

This takes wild speculation to a new level of absurdity, and I congratulate you!

Damn Brit or another mod will presumably be moving this thread to the rumors forum!!

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by Quension

no, you won't be powering anything like this from a camera. Separate power supply only.

Thanks for the clarification.

Originally posted by Quension

I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek or not

Ahh

If it isn't clear so I did a good job on this

Actually, it is both of it.
Of course, it is a bit early to ask

But the DP1 field monitor is a genuine find of mine and I thought I may share the idea to combine the two new products. Could make an awesome combo

PS
I actually would have liked to post a photoshopped image of the combo but then there is this embargo date ...

Vaikis_ · 04-29-2009, 03:01 AM

I heard that you can connect GPS antenna to K-7 LOL

dopeytree · 04-29-2009, 03:07 AM

5D MKII Gear Tips: LCD Monitors Vincent Laforet’s Blog

You want one with a peaking filter

And on GPS does anyone know anything about that?

dopeytree · 04-29-2009, 03:10 AM

you may also be interested in reading this

Tips and Tricks for the 5D MKII - PART II - Audio Vincent Laforet’s Blog

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 04:39 AM

dopeytree, thanks for the info.

The V-LCD70P-HDMI is another awesome device, it seems.
However, at 7" and 480p only, not exactly higher resolution than the K-7 3" ~480p rear LCD screen. And not as much more lightweight as its 7/9 size would suggest.

I have added a size comparison chart of the three devices:
- SmallHD DP1 (9")
- K-7 (3")
- V-LCD70P-HDMI (7")

Originally posted by dopeytree

And on GPS does anyone know anything about that?

Nope. But built-in GPS is always so bad that geotagging would still require an external logger anyway. Ask iPhone users

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by dopeytree

You want one with a peaking filter

Seems the 5Dmkii only outputs 480p LV over HDMI ...

If the K-7 does better in this regard, it may be a big bonus and replace the 5Dmkii as video DSLR

But I doubt it...

Quension · 04-29-2009, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

Of course, it is a bit early to ask

But the DP1 field monitor is a genuine find of mine

Definitely, I'd love to see one of these myself. If anyone gets one, let us know how it works!

dave sz · 04-29-2009, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

Nope. But built-in GPS is always so bad that geotagging would still require an external logger anyway. Ask iPhone users

What's wrong with the gps on iphones?

falconeye · 04-29-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by dave sz

What's wrong with the gps on iphones?

Oh, it works.
But by the time the GPS would have got a fix, the image is taken and the camera in stand-by mode again ...
So, most of my iPhone images lack a useful coordinate.

On the other hand, all of my K20D images have a super-precise coordinate just because my little logger happens to sit happily in the photo bag as well

pingflood · 04-29-2009, 11:06 AM

I heard the K7 will have a built in 9" display!

04-28-2009, 04:53 PM	#1
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Pentax K-7 with DP1 field monitor I am considering combining the K-7 with a field monitor like the DP1 from SmallHD SmallHD.com - 8.9" High Definition - the DP1. This is a 9" 720p monitor weighting ~800g. It should be hot-shoe mountable with the accesories coming out for the DP1. It connects to K-7 via its HDMI port. The monitor is wider than the K-7 by 50mm on each side. This should allow for much better control of manual focus and composition than using the screen. In the studio. Does anybody know if the new grip for K-7 (D-BG4) has a power outlet to connect the screen to? Does the hot shoe supply power supporting a constant 10W (this is as much as the DP1 draws)? Should I mount using a bracket to tripod socket rather than the hot shoe? Is there an alternative to the DP1, maybe a smaller 720p screen? Does anybody have experience with this combo (or any field monitor ...)? Last edited by falconeye; 04-28-2009 at 04:59 PM.

04-29-2009, 04:39 AM	#10
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	dopeytree, thanks for the info. The V-LCD70P-HDMI is another awesome device, it seems. However, at 7" and 480p only, not exactly higher resolution than the K-7 3" ~480p rear LCD screen. And not as much more lightweight as its 7/9 size would suggest. I have added a size comparison chart of the three devices: - SmallHD DP1 (9") - K-7 (3") - V-LCD70P-HDMI (7") Originally posted by dopeytree And on GPS does anyone know anything about that? Nope. But built-in GPS is always so bad that geotagging would still require an external logger anyway. Ask iPhone users Last edited by falconeye; 06-15-2011 at 05:28 AM.

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04-28-2009, 05:13 PM	#2
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	Nobody can answer your questions because the K-7 hasn't been released yet. All we have here is speculation and supposition. And dreams.

04-28-2009, 05:33 PM	#3
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by flyer Nobody can answer your questions because the K-7 hasn't been released yet. All we have here is speculation and supposition. And dreams. Ok, maybe not many have experience with the K-7 yet. Some do, though. And their number will increase in a couple of weeks. And part of my question was generic. Any experience with a field monitor connected via HDMI?

04-29-2009, 02:05 AM	#4
Quension Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: west coast USA Posts: 206	Originally posted by falconeye I am considering combining the K-7 with a field monitor like the DP1 from SmallHD SmallHD.com - 8.9" High Definition - the DP1 Quote: Does anybody know if the new grip for K-7 (D-BG4) has a power outlet to connect the screen to? Does the hot shoe supply power supporting a constant 10W (this is as much as the DP1 draws)? I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek or not, but in case it's not: no, you won't be powering anything like this from a camera. Separate power supply only.

04-29-2009, 02:53 AM	#5
MPrince Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 1,495	That's pretty funny. falconeye wants to hook up a product that has not yet been released to the marketplace to a product that hasn't even been offically announced to the marketplace. This takes wild speculation to a new level of absurdity, and I congratulate you! Damn Brit or another mod will presumably be moving this thread to the rumors forum!!

04-29-2009, 03:00 AM	#6
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by Quension no, you won't be powering anything like this from a camera. Separate power supply only. Thanks for the clarification. Originally posted by Quension I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek or not Ahh If it isn't clear so I did a good job on this Actually, it is both of it. Of course, it is a bit early to ask But the DP1 field monitor is a genuine find of mine and I thought I may share the idea to combine the two new products. Could make an awesome combo PS I actually would have liked to post a photoshopped image of the combo but then there is this embargo date ...

04-29-2009, 03:01 AM	#7
Vaikis_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213	I heard that you can connect GPS antenna to K-7 LOL

04-29-2009, 03:07 AM	#8
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	5D MKII Gear Tips: LCD Monitors Vincent Laforet’s Blog You want one with a peaking filter And on GPS does anyone know anything about that?

04-29-2009, 03:10 AM	#9
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	you may also be interested in reading this Tips and Tricks for the 5D MKII - PART II - Audio Vincent Laforet’s Blog

04-29-2009, 04:43 AM	#11
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by dopeytree You want one with a peaking filter Seems the 5Dmkii only outputs 480p LV over HDMI ... If the K-7 does better in this regard, it may be a big bonus and replace the 5Dmkii as video DSLR But I doubt it...

04-29-2009, 07:38 AM	#12
Quension Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: west coast USA Posts: 206	Originally posted by falconeye Of course, it is a bit early to ask But the DP1 field monitor is a genuine find of mine Definitely, I'd love to see one of these myself. If anyone gets one, let us know how it works!

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04-29-2009, 09:15 AM	#13
dave sz Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: carpentersville, IL Posts: 693	Originally posted by falconeye Nope. But built-in GPS is always so bad that geotagging would still require an external logger anyway. Ask iPhone users What's wrong with the gps on iphones?

04-29-2009, 09:37 AM	#14
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by dave sz What's wrong with the gps on iphones? Oh, it works. But by the time the GPS would have got a fix, the image is taken and the camera in stand-by mode again ... So, most of my iPhone images lack a useful coordinate. On the other hand, all of my K20D images have a super-precise coordinate just because my little logger happens to sit happily in the photo bag as well

04-29-2009, 11:06 AM	#15
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	I heard the K7 will have a built in 9" display!