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05-22-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Going up against a D700!!

Sunday I am doing a studio shoot with the K20D, D700 and D300.

The K20D is preferred over the D300 ( yes not my choice but clients ) but the studio now has a D700 available to it so it will be interesting to see how that pans out.

So far based on samples shots from the studio owner, ironically I may add they asked me to bring the K20D "JUST IN CASE" as they were not overly thrilled with the results so far. Now don't get me wrong, the D700 is going to be the "anything after 6pm" available light camera from now on as it really produces in low light but the fact the camera is both new to us and it doesn't seem to like the lenses we currently have available to it ( I think only one is a Pro F2.8 will have to check what they used for the sample test ) the owner asked for the camera he'd " swear his life by in good light " K20D.


Ya he did ask me if I'm going to get the K-7 as well.

will let you know how it goes, it would be fun to play with a D700 to.

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Enjoy the shoot. I'm sure the K20 will do you proud...and you will do Pentax proud!

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Great challenge.
Would be interested to know how it goes.
The D700's quite a stellar performer - K20D's got its work cut out for it!
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This is gonna be interesting.

I'm sure K20D won't slouch against D700.
But after 6pm hmm that's an interesting showdown to see.

Please post some samples after the photoshoot from those 3 cameras for us to compare.

Thanks,

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Does the D700 have VR lenses? At a given ISO, sure the D700 will probably win IQ-wise, but if you don't have VR, you could be using the K20D at 1600 where you need to use the D700 at 6400, and then the winner is not so clear-cut anymore. In fact, if you check the below link, the K20D absolutely slaughters the D700 in those specific conditions.

The Online Photographer: High ISO vs. Image Stabilization

"To me, it looks like the K20D at 1600 compares favorably to the D700 at 6400—it has better sharpness and more detail. This looks like a win for SR to me, for this kind of shot—a static scenic in extremely low light."

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below 400 iso the k20d looks significantly better than the d3 and plenty better than the d700.
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I wouldn't care even if it came out under the D700, image-quality wise. They're not even close in the price bracket. K20D is an inferior camera in many points of view. It also costs a fraction of what the D700 does.
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I wouldn't care even if it came out under the D700, image-quality wise. They're not even close in the price bracket. K20D is an inferior camera in many points of view. It also costs a fraction of what the D700 does.
Very true, but it seems that this D700 may have issues, that and no vr lenses. It would be the 2nd nikon to go back in a row with problems.

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doesn't matter a heck of a lot when you get to the final images. I've shot in studio w/ Canon and Nikon folks and the end results were comparable....your PP'ing expertise will make a far great difference. With studio work, there is almost always heavy PP involved...
I posted a few of my results a while back when all this forum talked about was K7D focus speed for an entire page of thread topics :-P
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenyee Quote
doesn't matter a heck of a lot when you get to the final images. I've shot in studio w/ Canon and Nikon folks and the end results were comparable....your PP'ing expertise will make a far great difference. With studio work, there is almost always heavy PP involved...
And controlled lighting, so all cameras can be used at relatively low ISO and the contrast range of the lighting is generally controlled, so differences between cameras noise and DR can be minimised, lens quality and pixel count being the most notable points of difference.
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Didn't really matter as that D700 has issues and will probably be going back, great timing tho as the D300 only just got back from repairs to.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Torphoto Quote
Sunday I am doing a studio shoot with the K20D, D700 and D300.

The K20D is preferred over the D300 ( yes not my choice but clients ) but the studio now has a D700 available to it so it will be interesting to see how that pans out.

So far based on samples shots from the studio owner, ironically I may add they asked me to bring the K20D "JUST IN CASE" as they were not overly thrilled with the results so far. Now don't get me wrong, the D700 is going to be the "anything after 6pm" available light camera from now on as it really produces in low light but the fact the camera is both new to us and it doesn't seem to like the lenses we currently have available to it ( I think only one is a Pro F2.8 will have to check what they used for the sample test ) the owner asked for the camera he'd " swear his life by in good light " K20D.


Ya he did ask me if I'm going to get the K-7 as well.

will let you know how it goes, it would be fun to play with a D700 to.
Sounds good, let us know how it goes


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Does the D700 have VR lenses? At a given ISO, sure the D700 will probably win IQ-wise, but if you don't have VR, you could be using the K20D at 1600 where you need to use the D700 at 6400, and then the winner is not so clear-cut anymore. In fact, if you check the below link, the K20D absolutely slaughters the D700 in those specific conditions.

The Online Photographer: High ISO vs. Image Stabilization

"To me, it looks like the K20D at 1600 compares favorably to the D700 at 6400—it has better sharpness and more detail. This looks like a win for SR to me, for this kind of shot—a static scenic in extremely low light."
Thanks for the link


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And controlled lighting, so all cameras can be used at relatively low ISO and the contrast range of the lighting is generally controlled, so differences between cameras noise and DR can be minimised, lens quality and pixel count being the most notable points of difference.
Hi Rob,
good to hear from you. How have you liked your Nikon FF ?
Do you still have Pentax glass, and have now come back with the K-x ?
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When does a client decide what manufacturer the shooter uses?
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Hi Rob,
good to hear from you. How have you liked your Nikon FF ?
Do you still have Pentax glass, and have now come back with the K-x ?
Hi Sune,

I'm still shooting Pentax, I have sold off some of my nice Pentax glass and I have bought one nice Nikon lens but sadly as yet I don't have a body on which to mount it. I'm starting a business again at the moment and it's most prudent for me to be a little conservative with my spare funds. Thankfully the K-x has brought my Pentax kit performance more in line with my expectations and it didn't make a significant dent in my funds.

I think I'm just about to put the remainder of my Mamiya 7II kit for sale though, I really can't see myself using film given that I can acheive the same results or better by shooting multiple images and stitching, maybe then I'll buy some dark side kit ;-)

Cheers,
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