K-7 Feature Questions

blende8 · 05-31-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Samsungian

Does the K-7 work better with non "A" aperture SMC lenses, or is K-7 mount still "crippled"?

No, it's still crippled.
The metering with M lenses is improved, but still not perfect.
I wrote about that here.

Minawee · 06-02-2009, 08:36 AM

One quick question to John or anyone else in the know:

Front/Back Focusing Correction:

K10D had none (outside the limited one-setting debug menu).

K20D had support for (I believe) 4 different lenses.

K-7 has....?

My apologies if the answer is already somewhere else...I just couldn't find it.

Thanks in advance,
-Paul

JCPentax · 06-02-2009, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Minawee

One quick question to John or anyone else in the know:

Front/Back Focusing Correction:

K10D had none (outside the limited one-setting debug menu).

K20D had support for (I believe) 4 different lenses.

K-7 has....?

My apologies if the answer is already somewhere else...I just couldn't find it.

Thanks in advance,
-Paul

It is the same as in the K20D.

RBellavance · 06-02-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Minawee

K20D had support for (I believe) 4 different lenses.

Not just 4, but actually 20 lenses.

Rico · 06-02-2009, 12:02 PM

Two questions:

First- Not sure if this was asked but will future SDHX support be added for the K-7?

Second- When not using SR there is no way to allow the camera to know what manual lenses is attached to the camera. It should be possible to always be able to dial in what lenses is attached to the camera? Seems like a simple task.

TIA

wolfier · 06-02-2009, 12:17 PM

A few questions:

1. In Live View mode, can a picture be taken totally silently without mirror slap at all, just like a point & shoot?

2. Have you tried the new ultrasonic dust shaking, how does it perform in relation to K10D or K20D?

JCPentax · 06-02-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Rico

Two questions:

First- Not sure if this was asked but will future SDHX support be added for the K-7?

Second- When not using SR there is no way to allow the camera to know what manual lenses is attached to the camera. It should be possible to always be able to dial in what lenses is attached to the camera? Seems like a simple task.

TIA

1) Not really sure. If physically and functionally possible, I think they probably would.

2) If the lens doesn't automatically relay this information, you can manually input the focal length. This is for Shake Reduction only, and every SR capable camera has had this functionality.

JCPentax · 06-02-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by wolfier

A few questions:

1. In Live View mode, can a picture be taken totally silently without mirror slap at all, just like a point & shoot?

2. Have you tried the new ultrasonic dust shaking, how does it perform in relation to K10D or K20D?

1) Not totally silent, but very quite. The shutter mechanism activates (but not the mirror), so there is some noise.

2) I can only assume it works better since it has been well reviewed in competitive cameras.

Arpe · 06-02-2009, 05:33 PM

John,

In the K20D the firmware was crook when the camera was set to Hyper-programme mode. The auto-ISO would work fine when altering the aperture (ie. it would lower shutter to 1/FL then up the ISO), whereas when altering shutter speed, once the camera hit the max aperture it would not alter the ISO! As a result I never use that mode, though it was a feature that I bought the camera for.

Can yo tell me if this is fixed in the K-7 please?

yipchunyu · 06-02-2009, 05:40 PM

one question:
when shooting with multiple exposure in K7, can it still use continuous shooting?
up to 5 frame?
I tried my K20d but it doesn't work

Rico · 06-02-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by JCPentax

1) Not really sure. If physically and functionally possible, I think they probably would.

2) If the lens doesn't automatically relay this information, you can manually input the focal length. This is for Shake Reduction only, and every SR capable camera has had this functionality.

Thanks for the reply JCpentax.

On number 2 what I was getting at is that when SR is turned off for manual lenses there is no way to input what lens is attached. It would be nice to be able to input the exact lens attached for future exif data reference regardless if SR is on or not. Would also be nice if we could dial the aperture being used on any particular M, K or Tak screwmount lens too.

I see this really going one step further as well. If Pentax allowed the input of exact A, M and K series lenses including Taks this data could be used to expand the lens correction features implemented in the K-7 to all Pentax lenses.

Due love the backward compatibility for certain. One reason I am a Pentax shooter.

JCPentax · 06-02-2009, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Arpe

John,

In the K20D the firmware was crook when the camera was set to Hyper-programme mode. The auto-ISO would work fine when altering the aperture (ie. it would lower shutter to 1/FL then up the ISO), whereas when altering shutter speed, once the camera hit the max aperture it would not alter the ISO! As a result I never use that mode, though it was a feature that I bought the camera for.

Can yo tell me if this is fixed in the K-7 please?

There are actaully three Auto ISO options in the K-7, biased to lower auto ISO setting, normal and higher auto ISO settings. I think that should address this issue.

JCPentax · 06-02-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by yipchunyu

one question:
when shooting with multiple exposure in K7, can it still use continuous shooting?
up to 5 frame?
I tried my K20d but it doesn't work

I think it works the same in the two cameras.

JCPentax · 06-02-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Rico

Thanks for the reply JCpentax.

On number 2 what I was getting at is that when SR is turned off for manual lenses there is no way to input what lens is attached. It would be nice to be able to input the exact lens attached for future exif data reference regardless if SR is on or not. Would also be nice if we could dial the aperture being used on any particular M, K or Tak screwmount lens too.

I see this really going one step further as well. If Pentax allowed the input of exact A, M and K series lenses including Taks this data could be used to expand the lens correction features implemented in the K-7 to all Pentax lenses.

Due love the backward compatibility for certain. One reason I am a Pentax shooter.

Ah...now I understand. It might be possible, but not sure how it would be recieved by the engineers.

dopeytree · 06-03-2009, 09:18 AM

Is the k-7's 3 year warranty Worldwide or only USA?

and will the new battery and grip be shipping at the same time as the K-7?

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05-31-2009, 02:03 PM	#136
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by Samsungian Does the K-7 work better with non "A" aperture SMC lenses, or is K-7 mount still "crippled"? No, it's still crippled. The metering with M lenses is improved, but still not perfect. I wrote about that here.

06-02-2009, 08:36 AM	#137
Minawee Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kitchener, ON, Canada Posts: 22	One quick question to John or anyone else in the know: Front/Back Focusing Correction: K10D had none (outside the limited one-setting debug menu). K20D had support for (I believe) 4 different lenses. K-7 has....? My apologies if the answer is already somewhere else...I just couldn't find it. Thanks in advance, -Paul

06-02-2009, 08:48 AM	#138
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146 Original Poster	Originally posted by Minawee One quick question to John or anyone else in the know: Front/Back Focusing Correction: K10D had none (outside the limited one-setting debug menu). K20D had support for (I believe) 4 different lenses. K-7 has....? My apologies if the answer is already somewhere else...I just couldn't find it. Thanks in advance, -Paul It is the same as in the K20D.

06-02-2009, 09:45 AM	#139
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	Originally posted by Minawee K20D had support for (I believe) 4 different lenses. Not just 4, but actually 20 lenses.

06-02-2009, 12:02 PM	#140
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,204	Two questions: First- Not sure if this was asked but will future SDHX support be added for the K-7? Second- When not using SR there is no way to allow the camera to know what manual lenses is attached to the camera. It should be possible to always be able to dial in what lenses is attached to the camera? Seems like a simple task. TIA

06-02-2009, 12:17 PM	#141
wolfier Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 123	A few questions: 1. In Live View mode, can a picture be taken totally silently without mirror slap at all, just like a point & shoot? 2. Have you tried the new ultrasonic dust shaking, how does it perform in relation to K10D or K20D?

06-02-2009, 12:25 PM	#142
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rico Two questions: First- Not sure if this was asked but will future SDHX support be added for the K-7? Second- When not using SR there is no way to allow the camera to know what manual lenses is attached to the camera. It should be possible to always be able to dial in what lenses is attached to the camera? Seems like a simple task. TIA 1) Not really sure. If physically and functionally possible, I think they probably would. 2) If the lens doesn't automatically relay this information, you can manually input the focal length. This is for Shake Reduction only, and every SR capable camera has had this functionality.

06-02-2009, 12:28 PM	#143
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146 Original Poster	Originally posted by wolfier A few questions: 1. In Live View mode, can a picture be taken totally silently without mirror slap at all, just like a point & shoot? 2. Have you tried the new ultrasonic dust shaking, how does it perform in relation to K10D or K20D? 1) Not totally silent, but very quite. The shutter mechanism activates (but not the mirror), so there is some noise. 2) I can only assume it works better since it has been well reviewed in competitive cameras.

06-02-2009, 05:33 PM	#144
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	John, In the K20D the firmware was crook when the camera was set to Hyper-programme mode. The auto-ISO would work fine when altering the aperture (ie. it would lower shutter to 1/FL then up the ISO), whereas when altering shutter speed, once the camera hit the max aperture it would not alter the ISO! As a result I never use that mode, though it was a feature that I bought the camera for. Can yo tell me if this is fixed in the K-7 please?

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06-02-2009, 07:22 PM	#146
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,204	Originally posted by JCPentax 1) Not really sure. If physically and functionally possible, I think they probably would. 2) If the lens doesn't automatically relay this information, you can manually input the focal length. This is for Shake Reduction only, and every SR capable camera has had this functionality. Thanks for the reply JCpentax. On number 2 what I was getting at is that when SR is turned off for manual lenses there is no way to input what lens is attached. It would be nice to be able to input the exact lens attached for future exif data reference regardless if SR is on or not. Would also be nice if we could dial the aperture being used on any particular M, K or Tak screwmount lens too. I see this really going one step further as well. If Pentax allowed the input of exact A, M and K series lenses including Taks this data could be used to expand the lens correction features implemented in the K-7 to all Pentax lenses. Due love the backward compatibility for certain. One reason I am a Pentax shooter.

06-02-2009, 07:25 PM	#147
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146 Original Poster	Originally posted by Arpe John, In the K20D the firmware was crook when the camera was set to Hyper-programme mode. The auto-ISO would work fine when altering the aperture (ie. it would lower shutter to 1/FL then up the ISO), whereas when altering shutter speed, once the camera hit the max aperture it would not alter the ISO! As a result I never use that mode, though it was a feature that I bought the camera for. Can yo tell me if this is fixed in the K-7 please? There are actaully three Auto ISO options in the K-7, biased to lower auto ISO setting, normal and higher auto ISO settings. I think that should address this issue.

06-02-2009, 07:26 PM	#148
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146 Original Poster	Originally posted by yipchunyu one question: when shooting with multiple exposure in K7, can it still use continuous shooting? up to 5 frame? I tried my K20d but it doesn't work I think it works the same in the two cameras.

06-02-2009, 07:27 PM	#149
JCPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 146 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rico Thanks for the reply JCpentax. On number 2 what I was getting at is that when SR is turned off for manual lenses there is no way to input what lens is attached. It would be nice to be able to input the exact lens attached for future exif data reference regardless if SR is on or not. Would also be nice if we could dial the aperture being used on any particular M, K or Tak screwmount lens too. I see this really going one step further as well. If Pentax allowed the input of exact A, M and K series lenses including Taks this data could be used to expand the lens correction features implemented in the K-7 to all Pentax lenses. Due love the backward compatibility for certain. One reason I am a Pentax shooter. Ah...now I understand. It might be possible, but not sure how it would be recieved by the engineers.

06-03-2009, 09:18 AM	#150
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	Is the k-7's 3 year warranty Worldwide or only USA? and will the new battery and grip be shipping at the same time as the K-7?