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06-25-2009, 09:53 PM   #46
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DA* 16-50 !
Don't know much about this lens..will look at the lens review section....is it a good lens for landscape as that is primarily what I do? Can't wait to get my hands on the K7 now that the decision is made! And looking forward to having a really good lens. At the moment have Sigma 10-20 (my one good lens), Sigma 18-125 (kit lens with K100), Sigma 28-105 F3.8-5.6, Sigma 28-80 F3.5-5.6 Mini Zoom Macro. Will be good to actually own a Pentax lens!

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Be objective about it mate...
What do you *need* all those improvements of the K-7 for?
The quality of the sensor is the limiting factor of the body - all the other features are hardly as important.

If you can get the quality of images you need/want with your K100D, the K20D will more than suffice. Sure, the K-7 would be nice to have, and with some cash made to spare would be the way to go, but in the end will the K-7 give you results above and beyond the K20D's, making you a more prolific photographer?
I concur. You would be better off buying a professional series lens. The difference will be much greater that the marginal benefits that the K-7 will confer.
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Thanks for the comments. Excuse my ignorance but which lens are you referring to? I have a budget of around $2000-2500 AUD so want to get the best lens I can afford.

Budget includes the K7!
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QuoteOriginally posted by ozlizard Quote
Don't know much about this lens..will look at the lens review section....is it a good lens for landscape as that is primarily what I do? Can't wait to get my hands on the K7 now that the decision is made! And looking forward to having a really good lens. At the moment have Sigma 10-20 (my one good lens), Sigma 18-125 (kit lens with K100), Sigma 28-105 F3.8-5.6, Sigma 28-80 F3.5-5.6 Mini Zoom Macro. Will be good to actually own a Pentax lens!
yup. I highly recommend you this lens because number 1 reason, you already got a very good wide angle lens like the 10-20 Sigma. number two, the DA* 16-50 has a speed of 2.8 as compared to the DA21 (3.2) and DA 12-24 (f4). 3rd, the 16-50 is weather-sealed as well as dust-proof sealed. 4th, it has SDM for silent operation.


as for me, I'm contemplating on whether to get a 12-24 or a 16-50.

12-24 is the ideal wide coverage that I was looking for, but the speed bothers me.
16-50 is fast but I'll surely miss the missing 4mm which could make the difference of a shot.

if I'll get the 12-24, maybe I could compensate on speed by strong exposure.
if I'll get the 16-45, maybe I'll just resort to attaching images for panorama.

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Well, after much prevarication I've finally bought a K20D and PX'ed the DA 16-45 for a DA* 16-50 - the K10 becomes a second body. I would have loved a K7 - smaller metal body, but with the K20 at 500, and being able to transfer the grip, and commonality of batteries (and an expensive holiday), the answere finally became obvious...
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... am looking to upgrade to a K20, sell the K100 and the 18-125 zoom and keep the wide angle. I can buy the K20 with a Pentax SMC P-DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II Lens for $990 AUD which has to be the bargain of the decade! OR is it really worth paying an extra $700 -$800 AUD and get the K7 with a similar lens? Any ideas...thanks.
Rather than going the full monte on camera model spending $1000US + on a professional type lens with a constant F2.8 aperture will give you a much greated improvement in quality.
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I had my sights set on the K-7, but after I saw the Best Buy refurb deal I changed my mind.

I will now stick with the K20 and buy some better glass until the K-7 (or K-8) comes down in price.

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ozlizard wrote "which lens are you referring to? I have a budget of around $2000-2500 AUD"
Your budget could just run to the smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM on line at the digital warehouse $999 AU. With the K20D you would romp home as I see the camera on sale on line for $900 AU or better.
Lightroom 2 at $400 AU or sowould raise your output quality more than an expensive camera.

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For my purposes at 100-400 iso the images are indistinguishable. If cost is a factor, you can get 2 x K20D's for the price of 1 K-7. I would opt for the K20D.
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Yes all valid points indeed and the 16-50mm lens would suit me just fine. There are really only 2 main factors that lead me to lean towards the K7 and they are the 100% viewfinder and the hi-res LCD monitor. I don't need live view or video but it would be nice to view your images with much improved clarity. Regardless of what they do to the sensor before the production model is released the IQ is not going to be that different from the K20. High noise levels at high ISO is not a factor for me.

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the smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM on line at the digital warehouse $999 AU
Yes that is true Ron and you can pick up the body from DWI online for $845 or with the 18-55 kit lens for $965.

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Said, in part, "the IQ is not going to be that different from the K20. High noise levels at high ISO is not a factor for me" and that is absolutely correct. I got a good deal from DWI and maybe in a couple of years time we can update to the K7D. Although the kit lens is better than many kit lenses I got a Sigma 17-70 2.8 - 4. I have found the wider lens (equivalent to 25 mm very useful. i also have the Sigma 10-20 mm. At the wide end you get some breathtaking perspectives.
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I have been using the K100 for nearly the last 4 years, during which I slowly acquired the 4 main lenses that worked for me. So with my lenses already in hand, the question was - pickup the K20 or wait for the K7? Two months ago the K20 price hit $670 US which included the 3 year Pentax warranty. I thought that the K7 would be nearly twice that - so it was a pretty easy choice to go with the K20.

Now with the specs out and the first images being posted on some other websites, and having used the K20 for about 2 months now - I have absolutely no regrets. I would have like the smaller body, better AF would be nice, movies in a pinch, and the rest of the newer features - but in actuality the K20 is way more than enough camera for me. The lenses are the important things here - and they will fit anything going froward. So I have really not lost anything - and actually gained a very good body at a bargain basement price. It will probably go lower - but it does not matter in the least. I think that I am set for - say the next 3 years - and my K100 is still going strong too.

I actually thought that my skills did not sufficiently rise to the level of the K20. However, now after acquiring it, my skills have vastly improved - really like the "P" mode, 5 image bracketing, the two wheels, and not having to go into the menus all the time. Also, my lenses were great on the K100, however they are even better on the K20, so I feel that this was an extremely good choice. Its a really nice camera and the price was right.

I just ran across some rumored specs of the Samsung GX30 (the Samsung K7 equivalent). I do have to say, GPS would have been a nice addition for me - landscapes & nightscapes.

So I took the K20 path with no regrets...

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Just ordered the K20D, body only for $882 AUD (including delivery). Great price for what I hope is a great camera! Will get a new lens (prob 16-50mm) when I sell my beloved K100. Now I just have to wait......
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Hi ozlizard
Who did you finish using for your purchase? My k20 body is now one to two days away.

Please let me know how your experience with the firm goes. DWI has been pretty good.
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That is a great price you got it for, mate.
Look forward to seeing images you create with your cam from WA!
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