K7 busted sensor strikes production body

noVICE · 09-19-2009, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

Are these cameras purchased with original firmware (prior to versions x.08 or x.09)?

@Jadran, noVICE, please provide shooting parameters (exposure time, ISO, RAW or JPG settings). Thank You.

Yes, I purchased mine before the firmware update. One fo the Images was
E 10"(+0.3EV), F11, ISO:100 Body Temp: 30°C
Jpeg 14.5Mp, 4star quality, AdobeRGB.

The line becomes more visible when contrast and brightness is increased in photoshop.

Strangely though, I had tested this camera previously and I could not get it to make the line when increasing the temperature... and it is odd that only a couple of images had the line from this lastest set.

Last edited by noVICE; 09-19-2009 at 06:50 PM.

bentax · 09-19-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by Ron720

I just got my new K7 a couple of hours ago. Its a really nice camera I like it

I just did a check on my firmware on the camera.
Using PhotoME the exif data says this.

DSP firmware Version Ver 1.00.00.08
CPU firmware Version Ver 1.00.00.08

So do I need to update my firmware? I have only taken one photo with it so far. I wating for the battery to charge.
My serial number is 3402*** so maybe my K7 is newer and has the updates from the factory.
I havent went looking at my 1 photo yet to see if there was a green line.
Also my shutter count is 286 is that normal for brand new?

New firmware is .09. Cant hurt to update but no-ones sure on the difference. The shutter count is normal.

falconeye · 09-20-2009, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Ron720

firmware Version Ver 1.00.00.08

This is a variant of firmware 1.00 which includes the green line fix.

Update to version 1.01 if you want the additional features. AFAIK, there is no green line difference between .08 and .09.

netuser · 09-20-2009, 04:33 AM

I bought my k7 in end of August (in Europe) and firmware is 1.01.00.09

Ron720 · 09-20-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

This is a variant of firmware 1.00 which includes the green line fix.

Update to version 1.01 if you want the additional features. AFAIK, there is no green line difference between .08 and .09.

Falconeye,
Thanks for the info I went to the Pentax USA site and got the new firmware.
No problems works good now I have the 1.00.00.09 and my firmware on camera reads 1.01

brecklundin · 09-21-2009, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

No, I do not.
All I know is that they have tighter QC now in order to ensure that the camera in conjunction with the new firmware delivers images free of pattern noise.

I speculate that the original routines handling pattern noise (as in the PRIME processor, and every dSLR has them!) had some limitations. And I further speculate that the fimware fix works fine as long as the unprocessed pattern noise (prior to PRIME processing) doesn't become too large. What QC now ensures. My speculation only!

Hey Falk,

I haven't been around much for the past month but wanted to thank you for keeping us all informed about this as well as essentially being a liaison between users here and Pentax. It really looks to have helped everyone understand the whole GLS as well as help make sure Pentax was getting feedback from users.

On top of that, it is great to read there was a fix found, and pretty quickly actually. Not surprised it was not just a firmware issue but also some screws needed tightening on the QC side of the production line.

I feel really good about buying a body now...just going to hold out on price...I mean my K20D is still OK and in a way I feel really attached to it...or is it attached to me?

hehehehe...

jgredline · 09-21-2009, 05:17 PM

I will tell you. As one of the first owners of a K-7 (PRE ORDERED) i can say that the firmware upgrades have been huge. The first especially...The K-7 is a total joy to use...This weekend I shot about 2 gigs worth of images with both my D700 and K-7 and I could not tell a difference in AF.C That first firmware upgrade, I am convinced sped up the Auto focus because when I first got the K-7 it was not faster than the K20D....

Jadran · 10-06-2009, 08:36 AM

I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems.

Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware:

Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

netuser · 10-06-2009, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by jgredline

I will tell you. As one of the first owners of a K-7 (PRE ORDERED) i can say that the firmware upgrades have been huge. The first especially...The K-7 is a total joy to use...This weekend I shot about 2 gigs worth of images with both my D700 and K-7 and I could not tell a difference in AF.C That first firmware upgrade, I am convinced sped up the Auto focus because when I first got the K-7 it was not faster than the K20D....

Which lens were you using on k-7 ?

netuser · 10-06-2009, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Jadran

.......................

Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware:

Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

Time to upgrade again

Thanks

jgredline · 10-06-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by netuser

Which lens were you using on k-7 ?

On that day I was using my 17-35F/2.8-4.0 tamron lens.

eva2000 · 10-07-2009, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Jadran

I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems.

Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware:

Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

thanks for the heads up

Quote:

MD5 hash

v1.01 original
c29eea509c95f3deda16f546b5702ed1

v1.01.00.09
c21cffdde129319d65a0c885067ea74d

v1.01.00.13
27559fda441f15dec24f4976265596de

flashed to 1.0.1.00.13 myself from 0.09 and no probs so far heh

Quote:

[Manufacturer notes]
Pentax Version: 50.0.0
Pentax Model Group: Group 1 (DSLR series & Various Optio models)
Preview Image Size: 640 x 480
Preview Image Length: 29013 bytes
Preview Image Start: 0x00008CEE
Pentax Model: 0x12db8
Date: 2009-10-07
Time: 21:17:12
Quality: RAW
Flash Mode: Off; Internal
Focus Mode: AF-S
AF Point Selected: Fixed Center
Exposure Time: 1/8"
F Number: F4
ISO: 800/30°
Exposure Compensation: ±0
Metering Mode: Multi-segment
Auto Bracketing: 0 EV, No Extended Bracket
White Balance: Auto
Focal Length: 35 mm
Saturation: Normal
Contrast: Normal
Sharpness: Very Soft
DSP Firmware Version: Ver 1.01.00.13
CPU Firmware Version: Ver 1.01.00.13
Effective LV: 3.9 LV
Picture Mode: Aperture Priority; 1/3 EV steps
Drive Mode: Single-frame; No Timer; Shutter Button; Single Exposure
??? (0035): 14352, 9535
Color Space: sRGB
Image Area Offset: x = 10 px, y = 10 px
RAW Image Size: width = 4672 px, height = 3104 px
??? (003D): 8192
Preview Image Borders: top = 28, bottom = 28, left = 0, right = 0
Lens ID: 7 + 233 + 0 + 0
Pentax Lens Type: DA or DA*
Lens Name(s) of the ID: smc PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.8 Macro Limited
Camera Temperature: 29 °C
AE Lock: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Flash Exposure Compensation: ±0
Image Tone: Natural
Color Temperature: Not set
SR Result: stabilized
Shake Reduction (Setup): 7
Shutter Release Half Press Time: 2.42 sec
SR Focal length: 35 mm
Shutter Count: 2486

r0ckstarr · 10-08-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Jadran

I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems.

Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware:

Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

I have the same problem. I noticed it today in a few shots. I'll also be upgrading to this firmware update. Thanks for posting this.

Here's an example:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/3994068372_9c0af3a747_b.jpg

schmik · 10-08-2009, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Jadran

I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems.

Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware:

Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

Having had a look at that JPG I would ask for another body. If it still looks like that after 2 firmware fixes then I would be asking for an exchange. That green line sticks out like dogs testicles.

mike

r0ckstarr · 10-08-2009, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by schmik

Having had a look at that JPG I would ask for another body. If it still looks like that after 2 firmware fixes then I would be asking for an exchange. That green line sticks out like dogs testicles.

mike

Are you talking to me or Jadran?

10-07-2009, 03:03 AM	#492
eva2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 239	Originally posted by Jadran I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems. Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware: Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX thanks for the heads up Quote: MD5 hash v1.01 original c29eea509c95f3deda16f546b5702ed1 v1.01.00.09 c21cffdde129319d65a0c885067ea74d v1.01.00.13 27559fda441f15dec24f4976265596de flashed to 1.0.1.00.13 myself from 0.09 and no probs so far heh Quote: [Manufacturer notes] Pentax Version: 50.0.0 Pentax Model Group: Group 1 (DSLR series & Various Optio models) Preview Image Size: 640 x 480 Preview Image Length: 29013 bytes Preview Image Start: 0x00008CEE Pentax Model: 0x12db8 Date: 2009-10-07 Time: 21:17:12 Quality: RAW Flash Mode: Off; Internal Focus Mode: AF-S AF Point Selected: Fixed Center Exposure Time: 1/8" F Number: F4 ISO: 800/30° Exposure Compensation: ±0 Metering Mode: Multi-segment Auto Bracketing: 0 EV, No Extended Bracket White Balance: Auto Focal Length: 35 mm Saturation: Normal Contrast: Normal Sharpness: Very Soft DSP Firmware Version: Ver 1.01.00.13 CPU Firmware Version: Ver 1.01.00.13 Effective LV: 3.9 LV Picture Mode: Aperture Priority; 1/3 EV steps Drive Mode: Single-frame; No Timer; Shutter Button; Single Exposure ??? (0035): 14352, 9535 Color Space: sRGB Image Area Offset: x = 10 px, y = 10 px RAW Image Size: width = 4672 px, height = 3104 px ??? (003D): 8192 Preview Image Borders: top = 28, bottom = 28, left = 0, right = 0 Lens ID: 7 + 233 + 0 + 0 Pentax Lens Type: DA or DA* Lens Name(s) of the ID: smc PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.8 Macro Limited Camera Temperature: 29 °C AE Lock: Off Noise Reduction: Off Flash Exposure Compensation: ±0 Image Tone: Natural Color Temperature: Not set SR Result: stabilized Shake Reduction (Setup): 7 Shutter Release Half Press Time: 2.42 sec SR Focal length: 35 mm Shutter Count: 2486 Last edited by eva2000; 10-07-2009 at 04:23 AM.

10-08-2009, 02:17 PM	#493
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	Originally posted by Jadran I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems. Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware: Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX I have the same problem. I noticed it today in a few shots. I'll also be upgrading to this firmware update. Thanks for posting this. Here's an example: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/3994068372_9c0af3a747_b.jpg Last edited by r0ckstarr; 10-08-2009 at 02:31 PM.

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09-19-2009, 06:45 PM	#481
noVICE Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 164	Originally posted by falconeye Are these cameras purchased with original firmware (prior to versions x.08 or x.09)? @Jadran, noVICE, please provide shooting parameters (exposure time, ISO, RAW or JPG settings). Thank You. Yes, I purchased mine before the firmware update. One fo the Images was E 10"(+0.3EV), F11, ISO:100 Body Temp: 30°C Jpeg 14.5Mp, 4star quality, AdobeRGB. The line becomes more visible when contrast and brightness is increased in photoshop. Strangely though, I had tested this camera previously and I could not get it to make the line when increasing the temperature... and it is odd that only a couple of images had the line from this lastest set. Last edited by noVICE; 09-19-2009 at 06:50 PM.

09-19-2009, 10:56 PM	#482
bentax Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Australia Posts: 190 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ron720 I just got my new K7 a couple of hours ago. Its a really nice camera I like it I just did a check on my firmware on the camera. Using PhotoME the exif data says this. DSP firmware Version Ver 1.00.00.08 CPU firmware Version Ver 1.00.00.08 So do I need to update my firmware? I have only taken one photo with it so far. I wating for the battery to charge. My serial number is 3402*** so maybe my K7 is newer and has the updates from the factory. I havent went looking at my 1 photo yet to see if there was a green line. Also my shutter count is 286 is that normal for brand new? New firmware is .09. Cant hurt to update but no-ones sure on the difference. The shutter count is normal.

09-20-2009, 04:25 AM	#483
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Ron720 firmware Version Ver 1.00.00.08 This is a variant of firmware 1.00 which includes the green line fix. Update to version 1.01 if you want the additional features. AFAIK, there is no green line difference between .08 and .09.

09-20-2009, 04:33 AM	#484
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	I bought my k7 in end of August (in Europe) and firmware is 1.01.00.09

09-20-2009, 11:39 AM	#485
Ron720 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 8	Originally posted by falconeye This is a variant of firmware 1.00 which includes the green line fix. Update to version 1.01 if you want the additional features. AFAIK, there is no green line difference between .08 and .09. Falconeye, Thanks for the info I went to the Pentax USA site and got the new firmware. No problems works good now I have the 1.00.00.09 and my firmware on camera reads 1.01

09-21-2009, 04:07 PM	#486
brecklundin Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,674	Originally posted by falconeye No, I do not. All I know is that they have tighter QC now in order to ensure that the camera in conjunction with the new firmware delivers images free of pattern noise. I speculate that the original routines handling pattern noise (as in the PRIME processor, and every dSLR has them!) had some limitations. And I further speculate that the fimware fix works fine as long as the unprocessed pattern noise (prior to PRIME processing) doesn't become too large. What QC now ensures. My speculation only! Hey Falk, I haven't been around much for the past month but wanted to thank you for keeping us all informed about this as well as essentially being a liaison between users here and Pentax. It really looks to have helped everyone understand the whole GLS as well as help make sure Pentax was getting feedback from users. On top of that, it is great to read there was a fix found, and pretty quickly actually. Not surprised it was not just a firmware issue but also some screws needed tightening on the QC side of the production line. I feel really good about buying a body now...just going to hold out on price...I mean my K20D is still OK and in a way I feel really attached to it...or is it attached to me? hehehehe...

09-21-2009, 05:17 PM	#487
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	I will tell you. As one of the first owners of a K-7 (PRE ORDERED) i can say that the firmware upgrades have been huge. The first especially...The K-7 is a total joy to use...This weekend I shot about 2 gigs worth of images with both my D700 and K-7 and I could not tell a difference in AF.C That first firmware upgrade, I am convinced sped up the Auto focus because when I first got the K-7 it was not faster than the K20D....

10-06-2009, 08:36 AM	#488
Jadran Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Zagreb Photos: Albums Posts: 105	I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems. Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware: Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

10-06-2009, 08:43 AM	#489
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Originally posted by jgredline I will tell you. As one of the first owners of a K-7 (PRE ORDERED) i can say that the firmware upgrades have been huge. The first especially...The K-7 is a total joy to use...This weekend I shot about 2 gigs worth of images with both my D700 and K-7 and I could not tell a difference in AF.C That first firmware upgrade, I am convinced sped up the Auto focus because when I first got the K-7 it was not faster than the K20D.... Which lens were you using on k-7 ?

10-06-2009, 08:45 AM	#490
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Originally posted by Jadran ....................... Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware: Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX Time to upgrade again Thanks

10-06-2009, 10:39 AM	#491
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Originally posted by netuser Which lens were you using on k-7 ? On that day I was using my 17-35F/2.8-4.0 tamron lens.

10-08-2009, 03:29 PM	#494
schmik Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Aus Photos: Gallery Posts: 527	Originally posted by Jadran I've contacted Pentax here in Croatia to consider my green line problem that still persisted after 09 firmware update, and they send me the link to the newest firmware 1.01.00.13. After update, lines are still present, but they are greatly reduced and show only in 1600 + ISO and after some use of live view. So, it helped. I'll test it for few days to see if I'll still have problems. Here is the link for 1.01.00.13 firmware: Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX Having had a look at that JPG I would ask for another body. If it still looks like that after 2 firmware fixes then I would be asking for an exchange. That green line sticks out like dogs testicles. mike

10-08-2009, 04:57 PM	#495
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	Originally posted by schmik Having had a look at that JPG I would ask for another body. If it still looks like that after 2 firmware fixes then I would be asking for an exchange. That green line sticks out like dogs testicles. mike Are you talking to me or Jadran?