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07-10-2009, 01:38 PM   #31
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If you love your K10 or K20 you will love the K-7. Period.

Second of all...Kmanlaker...I think your postings are hilarious. I've enjoyed the read.

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07-10-2009, 01:54 PM   #32
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Kmanlaker, I to0 have enjoyed your posts...

If you want to get the folks on here to love your drunken self... you should probably post something along the lines of:

"The D90 is hella better at High Iso's, the Pentax k7 has more noise but retains more detail"

That is the "accepted" statement around here for the last few years, anything less, and you may get spanked in public and your 'Nikon friendly' beer will be confiscated.

Well that is the accepted statement exept for the "hella" part! I been hella drinkin' too
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My first K-7 shootout using the fa77 and the vivitar 105 2,5 series 1. last one is a great performer when focussing manually

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QuoteOriginally posted by henrx Quote
My first K-7 shootout using the fa77 and the vivitar 105 2,5 series 1. last one is a great performer when focussing manually


Video?..........Video!....I DON'T WANT TO SEE NO STINKIN' VIDEO!

Just kidding.
Very nice Henry, but I would rather prefer images considering that you are using one of my favorite lenses (hint, it's a macro)

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hey who says i cannot own two systems anyways ??? oh i forgot i live in the usa and with the socialistic propoganda going on in this country we will soon be limited to only buying uncle sam approved equipment ( sorry for the rant )

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My first K-7 shootout using the fa77 and the vivitar 105 2,5 series 1. last one is a great performer when focussing manually

Nice video... I really miss the sound of rain on zinc/tile roofs. These darn Canadian houses are so well dampened that I can't hear anything during rain. Now do it on ISO 3200!
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We Pentaxians dont care about Nikon nor Canon

Dave

Apparently, some do!
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*snooze*

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QuoteOriginally posted by dafiryde Quote
We Pentaxians dont care about Nikon nor Canon

Dave
Actually, some of us do - at least I do. Although I don't intend to change systems, benchmarking the K-7 not only against my K20D but also against more expensive models from competitors helps me zero in on the $ value of the new camera in the context of the current market and thus whether I want one at it's present price point.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kmanlaker Quote
I hope I got all of the info correct
and I think I had noise reduction turned on the k7 maybe someone can verify this

here are links --- upon further review I think the k7 got trounced
i would like to hear from the forum members any comments ---except those regarding compostion and subject matter LOL

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Nice try, but the exposure and color balance differ so greatly, and the image size is so small that it is impossible to draw meaningful conclusions.

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QuoteOriginally posted by flyer Quote
Apparently, some do!
QuoteOriginally posted by Sailor Quote
Actually, some of us do - at least I do. Although I don't intend to change systems, benchmarking the K-7 not only against my K20D but also against more expensive models from competitors helps me zero in on the $ value of the new camera in the context of the current market and thus whether I want one at it's present price point.

Jer
this thread is on K7 vs D90, before the release of the K7 , a lot of people harped that the K7 would be better than the Nikon D300, and the D300 is better than than the D90
so is the K7 better than the D300?

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QuoteOriginally posted by dafiryde Quote
this thread is on K7 vs D90, before the release of the K7 , a lot of people harped that the K7 would be better than the Nikon D300, and the D300 is better than than the D90
so is the K7 better than the D300?

Dave
D300 didn't exactly have very good ISO performance compared to the D90. Actually, it is fair to say the D300 is = to the K20D at 1600+.
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To me, whenever comparing ISO performance, the potential use model decides whether an image is good enough or not. Means, the bigger I want it lateron printed or whatever, the cleaner it has to be. And unfortunately for us Pentax owners, Nikon has quite an advantage here. I took the liberty to modify the picures referenced in I believe item 17 of the thread and "enhanced" them once by applying excess development of 7.27 EV on them, another time by brightening up shadows by 100%; both in Photoshop CS4. Look at the results:

First K7 3200 original shot
then D90 3200 original
K7 +7EV
D90 +7EV
K7 shadows +100%
D90 shadows +100% (this one is to come innext post as there is a limit of 5 ...
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so, next comes D90 shadows +100%

Of course, the pics have been treated badly, but on thing turns out clearly: where Pentax produces overly blue grain, Nikon still delivers somewhat reasonable image quality. This is probably due to better sensor control or just better hardware. Considering that, the differences between K20D and K7 are pretty marginal.

To make a well thought decision on which brand to go with, most deciding would be how much post processing you need, and if or not you shoot under low light conditions. If so, then we can be sure that Nikon would be the better choice. Neverthless, I am still quite happy to have a K20D but do not see any reason to upgrade to K7 for the price it has by now... -kai
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Well thats just about it for me

QuoteOriginally posted by kasv Quote
so, next comes D90 shadows +100%

Of course, the picts have been treated badly, but on thing turns out clearly: where Pentax produces overly blue grain, Nikon still delivers somewhat reasonable image quality. This is probably due to better sensor control or just better hardware. Considering that, the differences between K20D and K7 are pretty marginal.

To make a well thought decision on which brand to go with, most deciding would be how much post processing you need, and if or not you shoot under low light conditions. If so, then we can be sure that Nikon would be the better choice. Neverthless, I am still quite happy to have a K20D but do not see any reason why to upgrade to K7 for the price it has by now... -kai
After looking at all the postings on EVERY Pentax forum on high K-7 ISO noise compared to the Nikon D90, I have decided to stay with my K20D's as my main stay.

I have many, many limited lenses and other high quality Pentax gear, and love the feel and the Pentax quality.

Both my K20D's are pretty new so I will use them and wait for Pentax to upgrade firmware if they can on the K-7 high ISO issue.

No use spending $1200 US, when I can get a K20D for $629 at B&H. and it has less noise.

I love the WB of the K-7 and there are many, many other features that blow the K20D away .... but image quality is job #1 in my book.


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