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07-21-2009, 04:25 AM   #16
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I got myself a 18% gray cat. Solved the problem



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Actually, the main things about the K-7 that I'm delighted with now over and over is the metering and AWB. I became so accustomed to the limited and typically inaccurate AWB settings with the K20D and K2000 that it has taken me a couple weeks to realize I can keep metering on multi-segment and WB on "Auto." the K-7 rarely misses either.
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I got myself a 18% gray cat. Solved the problem

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Let me just say that I'm amused and thrilled that cats (of all colors!) are the new benchmark for DSLR metering.

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Cant shoot my black cat, or photograph him either ;)

My K20d doesnt seem to want to get a good shot of my all black cat. Part of the problems is that he wont stick around for more than 1/100th of a second so I cannot expose a bit longer to get the details out of him. I also dont have any real inside lights in my living room which happens to be his "pad" so that makes things tougher as well. I bet I will have better luck with my new 50mm 1.7 Manual pentax lens whenever it decides to get here.
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My K20d doesnt seem to want to get a good shot of my all black cat. Part of the problems is that he wont stick around for more than 1/100th of a second so I cannot expose a bit longer to get the details out of him. I also dont have any real inside lights in my living room which happens to be his "pad" so that makes things tougher as well. I bet I will have better luck with my new 50mm 1.7 Manual pentax lens whenever it decides to get here.
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That is exactly the kind of problems I had before with my k20d. Not only is the metering off so you can't see any detail in the cat's face, but also the AF is difficult.
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QuoteOriginally posted by MoparFreak69 Quote
My K20d doesnt seem to want to get a good shot of my all black cat. Part of the problems is that he wont stick around for more than 1/100th of a second so I cannot expose a bit longer to get the details out of him. I also dont have any real inside lights in my living room which happens to be his "pad" so that makes things tougher as well. I bet I will have better luck with my new 50mm 1.7 Manual pentax lens whenever it decides to get here.
My shot of the ginger cat earlier in this thread was taken with 50mm 1.7 Manual Pentax lens.
Let me just say, manual focus and animals is a tricky combo at times. Metering may be the least of your issues!
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Have you tried to put the camera in spot meter mode and meter the black and do a EV compensation?

Think about it this way. How would you meter the cat with a camera that didn't have a built in meter and you had to use a handheld meter?

Okay, this is about the only cat picture I have. It is not the same problem but heck I'll throw it in for fun.

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No to be racist, but i just went on a mission trip to nicaragua. You know how hard it is to expose black people? impossible. This is nice.
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Mopar,
That is exactly the kind of problems I had before with my k20d. Not only is the metering off so you can't see any detail in the cat's face, but also the AF is difficult.

Very good to hear, how you've found improvements in the K7. Thanks.
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i think black/red cats might be the hardest to shoot.



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No to be racist, but i just went on a mission trip to nicaragua. You know how hard it is to expose black people? impossible....
Impossible? Do you mean hard to expose for their darker skin or hard to get good detail in their darker skin without blowing highlights in the rest of the scene?

If it is the former, it is not hard at all! You have an EV compensation button/setting no?
If it is the latter, then that is a limitation of light range of the digital sensor and shooting that type of camera.

Only billions of successful pictures of black people have been taken over the last 100 years. So maybe that should tell you how impossible it really is.






Also, have a look at this picture taken in ambient light: http://www.flickr.com/photos/vtolstova/3566513776/sizes/o/ It has all the tone detail one could ask for. Impossible?
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