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07-31-2009, 07:18 PM   #16
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Glad it worked out. Sometimes it's the simple things!

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K-7 was to sharp?
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I'm glad you worked the problem, and then posted the solution! Some would have chosen the knee-jerk solution to send the camera back for a refund, followed by a never ending screed against the K-7. Then they would have started a blog about it.

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K-7 was to sharp?
Yes. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, if your sharpness is too high, it will "sharpen noise." Notice how sharp the door is in the first K-7 image, and how much more subdued and "normal" it looks after sharpening was reduced.

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QuoteOriginally posted by PentaxPoke Quote
I'm glad you worked the problem, and then posted the solution! Some would have chosen the knee-jerk solution to send the camera back for a refund, followed by a never ending screed against the K-7. Then they would have started a blog about it.



Yes. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, if your sharpness is too high, it will "sharpen noise." Notice how sharp the door is in the first K-7 image, and how much more subdued and "normal" it looks after sharpening was reduced.
I just thought that someone that can take such great images as pcarfan........

Never mind, it's a frustrating hobbie and I would of never of figured it out!

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QuoteOriginally posted by PentaxPoke Quote
I'm glad you worked the problem, and then posted the solution! Some would have chosen the knee-jerk solution to send the camera back for a refund, followed by a never ending screed against the K-7. Then they would have started a blog about it.



Yes. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, if your sharpness is too high, it will "sharpen noise." Notice how sharp the door is in the first K-7 image, and how much more subdued and "normal" it looks after sharpening was reduced.
yeah default out of the box K-7 is set to sharper (FINE) settings IIRC.
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QuoteOriginally posted by eva2000 Quote
yeah default out of the box K-7 is set to sharper (FINE) settings IIRC.
carfan said the sharpness was maxed out. I think he set it back to default and now it looks fine.
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And when you compare it to the K10 photo after he fixed the problem, one can see a vast difference in IQ between the two cameras.


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Now I know why I'm a raw shooter......

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RAW definitely solves a lot of problems. I use it exclusively, but then again, I am pretty compulsive at trying to make certain that every photo is just right from a sharpening, white balance stand point.
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yeah im very happy i switched over to raw

MAKE THE SWITCH!
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I have only been shooting in RAW with the K10D. I didn't want to use the wrong RAW converter with the K-7, and I was also lazy with these 'tests', so decided to use JPEG. Now, I have lightroom 2.4, so will be shooting RAW only.

Sorry for any confusion.
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GREAT! Glad these guys could help you figure it out
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A happy ending! That last K-7 shot is the best looking thermostate I've seen in a long time. Keep it in case dpreview will make a challange competition regarding thermostates
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Thanks to this thread.. I think I gonna use -4 Sharpness for my JPEG in my K7 now.

No wonder I was finding all the "grains" a bit too big for my taste compared to my K20 and K10. I fiddled with my NR settings.. thinking maybe too much NR that caused the grain.

The funny thing about K7 JPEG setting is, I can't use a +1 sharpness and -3 fine sharpness, whereas in K20D, you can set both independent of each other. Maybe its a bug????
[Edit: No.. its not.. I must be dreaming that up.. sorry ]

Anyway... some picture to show my findings..
Picture 1,2,3,4 are set at Sharpness +4 (max), +1 (Default for Bright), -2, -4 (min)

Notice the grains in the white area of the 'W'
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For bigger view of the picture.. you can click here.
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and here

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Ohh yah.. you can press the magnifiying glass to view the real 100% from those link.
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