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08-03-2009, 02:21 PM   #76
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QuoteOriginally posted by zeus Quote
Concerning the DA* glass, If I was to go Pentax, I was planning on pairing a K-7 with the 16-50 and then pick up the 50-135 a few months later - but the reviews on Amazon for both are devastating (QC issues) and I am wondering if I should save money and just pick up the cheap WR lenses and wait for the next higher end zoom incarnations from Pentax.
The early copies of the DA* 16-50 were plagued by QC problems, particularly centering defects. These problems have been eliminated, as judged by the nearly uniformly favorable reviews from recent purchasers, myself included. I love that lens. Cannot comment on the DA*50-135, but it is my impression that owners are very pleased with it. Lots of love for the DA*60-250 as well.

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Why do some people think that any complaint or criticism is "bashing" and that any positive comment is being a "fanboy"?

It is that kind of hyperbole that does the damage. Not the original comments, made in good faith.

What a boring thread.
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Why do some people think that any complaint or criticism is "bashing" and that any positive comment is being a "fanboy"?

It is that kind of hyperbole that does the damage. Not the original comments, made in good faith.

What a boring thread.
but you read it.
08-03-2009, 02:43 PM   #79
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Lets get this straight...

QuoteOriginally posted by séamuis Quote
screw that plastic armored DA wimp, my Takumar 55 can destroy your oversized overweight helios any day of the week. and dont let my Macro-Takumar 50 get in the fight because it will be short and sweet. and not in a good way for your soviet socialist behemoth.
QuoteOriginally posted by Gruoso Quote
This is going too fast.

I am always late to the interesting developments.

I offer myself as a referee for a showdown between Gus and Seamuis. Japan vs URSS. Takumar vs Helios. The battle of the fifties... miniskirts are allowed but rockabilliy hairdoes are strictly prohibited.

Pentax 55 and Sigma 50 candidates are required for the other semifinal. Anyone?
У меня слишком много уважения к моим братьям Японский избить до полусмерти...
Я бы протереть пол с ними. Сделать их лизать мою грязную Российской загрузки.


I am not challenging my esteemed Japanese Brothers to a fight, I have too much respect for them. But I am surprised to find them so aggressive in jumping in to protect their Hoya Dog Lens Cousin!

If I wanted a Tak vs Helios fight I could stage it myself... unsanctioned of course.
It is Star Boy - the Dog Lens that I challenge...

and leave the Sigma 50-1.4 in the bag... I have no quarrel with the Sigmonster

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QuoteOriginally posted by séamuis Quote
but you read it.
Actually, I skimmed it in 60 seconds and then posted in 60 seconds more. Only because I'm waiting for an audio project to render.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
У меня слишком много уважения к моим братьям Японский избить до полусмерти...
Я бы протереть пол с ними. Сделать их лизать мою грязную Российской загрузки.


I am not challenging my esteemed Japanese Brothers to a fight, I have too much respect for them. But I am surprised to find them so aggressive in jumping in to protect their Hoya Dog Lens Cousin!

If I wanted a Tak vs Helios fight I could stage it myself... unsanctioned of course.
It is Star Boy - the Dog Lens that I challenge...

and leave the Sigma 50-1.4 in the bag... I have no quarrel with the Sigmonster
beat to a pulp huh? no dirty russain boot licking for me. your own unsanctioned fight is proof your soviet socialist wouldn't stand a chance. anyone willing to accept the challenge and show what the 'dog' lens is all about?
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Clearly we are having problem with translation... english is not my language! Much Respect
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Clearly we are having problem with translation... english is not my language! Much Respect
no problems google translate cant handle. much respect indeed. its deserved and your helios knows it. just don't let those godzilla sized canons get wind of this. they will crush us all in an attempt to defend the home land. nothing beats a canon.

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Ok so we after a session of shared onanism we are left with an old vs new, manual vs machine, dog vs man star competition

I propose the following. Let us lurk on the Free Willy Pentax 55 f1.4 threads and propose the showdown. There should be several test
1) 110 yards hurdles. Take your lens at f1.4 and shoot items that includes specular reflections against sun shoots, etc
2) Beauty pageant talent test. Shoot a portrait of a moving someone with the above-mentioned lens.
3) 30 ft pole vault brick. Also known as Brick-Newspaper-scissor....For hardcore pixel-peepers. Let us show which lens can break bricks

Which lens will reign supreme?

Are the contenders willing to start such a task if a challenger appears? or are they going to kiss themselves on different idioms?

Beats are 4:1 favouring the Man Star lens. Accepting bets.
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Translation...

QuoteOriginally posted by séamuis Quote
no problems google translate cant handle. much respect indeed. its deserved and your helios knows it. just don't let those godzilla sized canons get wind of this. they will crush us all in an attempt to defend the home land. nothing beats a canon.

I used this "Google translate" of which you speak.

I see problem. To lick boot in Russia is good! Mop Floor is good...
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Bashing Petnax K-7 is not the answer
I agree, since I have not seen a Petnax K-7.
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People who have problems are always more vocal. Happy users are usually busy enjoying,
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QuoteOriginally posted by Damn Brit Quote
So buy three Pentax cameras then.
Oh, sure, give me a REASON to spend more...ya Damn Brit!!

QuoteOriginally posted by séamuis Quote
im not angry, and do you have proof that nobody buys direct from canon? I exaggerated nothing. reread my posts for the reason I quoted those prices.
Dude...I am told the tampon goes in straight not sideways, and it will make you less cranky if you try not to lose the string. hehehehe....seriously it does read as if you are comitting a tad bit of hyperbole because you simply want to...
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Once again a thread with tons of crap misinformation, this time by Pentaxians.

Honestly if the world was an ideal place we can get a cantax, the 5d Mk2 sensor in a ( larger obviously ) k7 styled body. Then we'd all be happy as honestly, canon so sucks when it comes to ergonomics, Nikon in it's own way is worse but imo their sensors are better as is their af system ( well d300 and better ). Then again we are comparing D700's and 5d's to k7's now thats actually so not fair in so many different price point ways.
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I drove a first gen WRX with suspension and tires (stock engine) at Buttonwillow once, it was setup for neutral/oversteer and it was good fun. That same day, I beat the crap out of my other friend's STI which was completely stock - quick, efficent, but it would understeer you into Mexico short of pulling the handbrake in corners. Which is not the right way to drive.

That's why I don't understand people who say STI's and EVO's are drifter cars. They read too many magazines. They're both nose heavy plowers from the factory.

I have tracked the TT, but it's not that much fun. It's a highly efficient machine but the 993's are a much more satisfying experience. I usually track my EVO, which is fairly entertaining and cheap enough to not worry if I end up going off.

I agree though - too much power on the street can be trouble. And most attention is the wrong kind.

So how about that Petnax...

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I don't like attention on the street - it leads to bad things. On the track I didn't have to worry about an F or L car as they would rarely be there. The TTs were beasts that my screaming 172hp was no match for...well, except in the corners if the TT driver was a noob.

A flat 6 is a home on the track. On the street it is somewhat depressing. Even my current WRX is overkill, though I'll track it when it cools down just for grins. I'm curious to compare lap times between a track prepped SC and a bone stock WRX.

Oh wait, we were talking cameras...
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