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08-19-2009, 08:38 PM   #1
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New Body or New Lenses

I have owned the K100D for three years now.

I was considering purchasing a K-7 by the end of this year. But I'm having alternative thoughts of getting a couple more lenses to gain more experience with my K100D before I upgrade bodies.

My current lenses are the 18-55 and 50-200 kits lenses, and the Pentax FA 50.
I would like to own the Pentax 12-24 and the 55-300 with a Kenco 1.4.

I like architectural work, and landscapes, including panoramas. Plus I am planning a trip to Alaska next year. These two new lenses would be about the same price as a K-7. A stopgap for getting additional resolution for larger prints or severe crops could be the $40 (Best Buy) Essentials 2 software that contains a Genuine Fractals type of function.

The K-7 could use a few more months to mature, and by this time next year will likely be a few hundred dollars cheaper.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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the one piece of advice i hear/see constantly is to spend more on the lenses, or better put, view the lenses as the true investments. you buy a limited or star lens, you can use it on any pentax body you may buy...

good glass will generally make more of a difference than a newer body, tho i do want the k-7 myself....but i know if i wanted say, the 60-250 or the k7, i'd be hard pressed to pick simply because i know i have not pushed my k10 to its limits yet. in my kit, the photographer is the weakest link
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QuoteOriginally posted by jmdeegan Quote
in my kit, the photographer is the weakest link
Sooo true.
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Your in a tough spot... i went from the k100d to the k7 and all i can say is WOW!
But, i ignored the k20d and worked on my glass collection. Of course i still want more glass but for the moment i am as happy as a pig in *&^%.

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One observation: the K20D and the DA12-24 together will run $40 more than the K7 at B&H.

If you like architecture, landscapes, and panoramas, it seems like you would get the most use out of a very wide lens. I would strongly consider making that lens a priority, and finding a way to work around that purchase.

If resolution is the limiting factor for your current printing needs, then upgrading from 6 megapixels is reasonable. If that's your primary reason for upgrading, though, why not the K20D?

How would a 14.6 MP camera (K20D, K7) with your 200mm lens, cropped, compare with your 6.1 MP camera with a 300mm zoom? I have no idea if this analysis is correct, but I'll give it a shot: with megapixels, you're effectively talking about a unit of area; with lens lengths, you're talking about a linear unit. The root of 14.6 / 6.1 is ~1.55. 300mm/200mm is 1.5. So, by that figuring, you're slightly better off with cropping the extra pixels on a K20D than using a longer lens on the K100D, assuming the pixels and optics are equivalent. Of course, that only considers field of view and doesn't consider the teleconverter.
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The options are endless, though ultimately up to you and where your priorities lie.
As others mention, the lens is the next biggest limiting factor to the photographer in getting a great image. And as architecture's on your mind, the 12-24 or Sigma 10-20 (or even Tamron's 10-24 when/if it comes around for Pentax) is the most logical addition to your lenses.

The K100D is still a very good camera, though the K20D is a significant leap in many features, which you could go for rather than the K-7 (if you're not so keen on video).

All the best in that.
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Lenses all the way.

Photographer aside, its lenses that take pictures really.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gfmucci Quote
I have owned the K100D for three years now.

I was considering purchasing a K-7 by the end of this year. But I'm having alternative thoughts of getting a couple more lenses to gain more experience with my K100D before I upgrade bodies.

My current lenses are the 18-55 and 50-200 kits lenses, and the Pentax FA 50.
I would like to own the Pentax 12-24 and the 55-300 with a Kenco 1.4.

I like architectural work, and landscapes, including panoramas. Plus I am planning a trip to Alaska next year. These two new lenses would be about the same price as a K-7. A stopgap for getting additional resolution for larger prints or severe crops could be the $40 (Best Buy) Essentials 2 software that contains a Genuine Fractals type of function.

The K-7 could use a few more months to mature, and by this time next year will likely be a few hundred dollars cheaper.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
I always say go for the lens before the camera body, I even repeated it a couple of weeks back, now that I have the K-7, I am not sure any more. It is that good. But, you would love the extrad width of the 12-24, and the 55-300 is a stellar lens too. So, it is a close close, may be still in favor of going with the lenses rather than the K-7...but, the k-7 is oh! so, perfect....

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I too, say lenses.
Or as Jon PB wrote, the K20 plus lens is another option. A big step up from the K100, but obviously not as much as the K-7.

Is it possible to rent another body for the trip?
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Same opinion from me too i.e. go for a lens - DA12-24mm. It is really good lens.
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You will get more creatively out of a broader lens selection
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Your situation sounds familiar. As much as I love/loved my istDS it's time was drawing near and I had eeked more life out of it my upgrading my kit lens to the DA16-45 and the Tamron 28-75. Once the price drops started on the K20D I was salivating. K7 sounded real tempting but realistically I am nowhere near good enough to justify a $1200 camera, so I decided on the the K20D. I can honestly say that I'm very happy with the upgrade and now it has breathed crisp, new life into my old Tamron 70-300. I love the extra control I have to change things on the fly without going into the menu and the larger file size allows me more freedom when cropping my images. Either way I don't think you'll be disappointed, but for me, going from the istDS to the K20D was a major advancement in my photo taking abilities.
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Buy the lenses you want/need. Use them on the K100 for a while getting the photos you're really after - and then decide if you still need/want a body upgrade.

You will not be unhappy with the DA12-24
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Instead of a K7, I upgraded my K10 to a K20, and the Pentax 50-135 f2.8 lens. So i got 2 items for the price of the K7. With a MSN live rebate, i got the K20 for $600 and the lens for $795 from BH.

So i would go for a K20 and a lens. K20 had a lot of features i liked, the AF was significantly faster than the K10, it doesn't have all the current teething problems of any new camera like the K7, it has the AF adjustment table, etc.

best wishes,
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I'm liking the 'and' option, here, I have to say.

If the OP bought *one* of the lenses he wants, he could upgrade to the K20d, be getting the full benefit of one those lenses, and either wait for the K-7's early-adopter price to come down or leapfrog that model. Somewhere along the line, one could, say, upgrade the tele zoom.

While you might want the longer zoom specifically to go to Alaska with, if you have the K20d's more MP you can probably crop to make up the difference. Or just buy a lens and make up your mind about the rest later.

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