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gnaztee · 09-02-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by GeneralBenson

That is not a word either... Sorry.

???

Originally posted by cardinal43

According to Wikipedia.....Irregardless is a term meaning in spite of or anyway, that has caused controversy since it first appeared in the early twentieth century. It is generally listed in dictionaries as "incorrect" or "nonstandard".

There's no controversy. "Ir" means "not" (irresponsible = not responsible). Therefore, using the "ir" in front of "regardless" makes it mean the OPPOSITE of "in spite of or anyway." Not surprisingly, Wikipedia is stellar once again in its grasp of actual facts. So it is not a word in any useable sense.

Last edited by gnaztee; 09-02-2009 at 04:12 PM. Reason: Poor proofreading

dylansalt · 09-02-2009, 11:47 AM

How on earth did I cope in the age of manual slr days when all my kids were young?

Practice??

In fact I have tons of pics of my kids taken with an Oly 5060 prosumer cam-at swimming gala's,athletics,skateboarding,rollerblading, moto-x - practice practice and learn timing.

I have played with a K7 and its focusing speed is way faster than the k10/20D and I have plenty action shots taken with the K10D as have others

cheers

Dylan

PentaxPoke · 09-02-2009, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

maybe what he meant was the shutter pauses after some time between shooting. I don't think that the term is shutter lag also but more of buffer fill. the shutter stops when the camera is emptying out the buffer. of course some people dont experience this with a faster card used.

The K-7 can take over 5 frames per second to a buffer of roughly 40 pictures. I can't believe his kids are moving that fast! This guy must be The Flash married to Wonder Woman! If that is not fast enough for you, I have one word you should consider: video.

nostatic · 09-02-2009, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by gnaztee

???

There's no controversy. "Ir" means "not" (irresponsible = not responsible). Therefore, using the "ir" in front of "regardless" makes it mean the OPPOSITE of "in spite of or anyway." Not surprisingly, Wikipedia is stellar once again in it's grasp of actual facts. So it is not a word in any useable sense.

Me fail English? That's unpossible!

YouTube - ralph wiggum funny moment

gnaztee · 09-02-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by nostatic

Me fail English? That's unpossible!

YouTube - ralph wiggum funny moment

Awesome

Pentaxor · 09-02-2009, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by dylansalt

How on earth did I cope in the age of manual slr days when all my kids were young?

Practice??

In fact I have tons of pics of my kids taken with an Oly 5060 prosumer cam-at swimming gala's,athletics,skateboarding,rollerblading, moto-x - practice practice and learn timing.

I have played with a K7 and its focusing speed is way faster than the k10/20D and I have plenty action shots taken with the K10D as have others

cheers

Dylan

well, if it's focusing speed, the OP should had tried out shooting in lowlight using a K10D, K20D, and K7. as I said before, during my initial shooting tests done when my K7 arrived and tried it with a 35, it went firing like crazy in lowlight. it never even missed, not even once. and the focusing times it took if I would evaluate it is even below half a second (possibly a quarter). I used other lenses as well, other primes and zooms and still it performed very well.

my experience with the K20D under the same condition however was not that good as it was struggling to focus and was more prone to focus error on most occasions. actually it was virtually kept on focus hunting back and forth til it gave up.

Pentaxor · 09-02-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by PentaxPoke

The K-7 can take over 5 frames per second to a buffer of roughly 40 pictures. I can't believe his kids are moving that fast! This guy must be The Flash married to Wonder Woman! If that is not fast enough for you, I have one word you should consider: video.

or someone who is faster than a speeding bullet.

it is very capable. with a slow card, you need to decrease the IQ and MP size abit as well as turning of some correctional features. but with a faster card, I don't think it would have any problem keeping up the pace with a maximum image setting.

amateur6 · 09-02-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by gnaztee

There's no controversy. "Ir" means "not" (irresponsible = not responsible). Therefore, using the "ir" in front of "regardless" makes it mean the OPPOSITE of "in spite of or anyway." Not surprisingly, Wikipedia is stellar once again in it's grasp of actual facts. So it is not a word in any useable sense.

You're absolutely correct, but I find it ironic that you have incorrectly inserted an apostrophe in "it's grasp" -- "it's" is a contraction of "it is" while "its" is possessive.

gnaztee · 09-02-2009, 04:10 PM

You're right. I have a nasty habit of not proofreading my forum posts

...fixed (and thanks for noticing!)

robgo2 · 09-02-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Damn Brit

I fail to see the logic in selling all your gear before you tried the K-7.

Maybe he had to sell his old gear to get money to buy new gear. He did not expect that the K-7 would not meet his expectations, if you know what I mean.

Rob

robgo2 · 09-02-2009, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by HeavyD

Well I sold off all my gear, went down to Adorama to buy a K7 and came back empty handed. The K7 sure does feel nice and the new screen and menus are cool too. What I didn't like was that the AF/shutter lag and AFC is still slow compared to the other two major brands. I also did not like the fact that the new K7, like my older K10d will not burst shoot with flash. This is something that I miss when I had a Canon 30d.

Didn't Imaging Resource find that the K-7's shutter lag was at least as good as the D300's? As far as AFC is concerned, user reports suggest that the K-7 may be somewhat behind the competition. That's too bad if you do the sort of photography that depends heavily on AFC. At the same time, the K-7 has in-camera SR, which gives it a huge advantage over the competition, IMO.

Life is full of compromises.

Rob

creampuff · 09-02-2009, 04:57 PM

Isn't it always the case that it is far easier to blame the camera instead of acknowledging poor technique, ability or the photographer's own failings.

Those who think the K-7 is deficient should take a leaf from this excellent work done entirely with the K-7. For those old foggies who think that video has no place in the camera, well time for a re-think and break out of that old paradigm.

YouTube - ?? (PENTAX K-7 MOVIE)

Votesh · 09-02-2009, 06:14 PM

Seems like the type of person that switches brands every time a new interesting camera comes out.

Originally posted by Damn Brit

I fail to see the logic in selling all your gear before you tried the K-7.

Rupert · 09-02-2009, 08:51 PM

I was once down on the river bank and heard two old men talking. One said to the other "Sam, I married the same woman seven times, names were different but she was always the same one".

My bet is that you are one of the cursed ones that can go to Canon, Nikon, Oly, Sony, Sigma, or Fuji....and end up with a Pentax every time.
Regards
Rupert

Damn Brit · 09-02-2009, 09:09 PM

I'm wondering how B&H felt about kids running around the store. Added to that, the light in the store may have had an impact on focusing.

09-02-2009, 11:54 AM	#48
PentaxPoke Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,411	Originally posted by Pentaxor maybe what he meant was the shutter pauses after some time between shooting. I don't think that the term is shutter lag also but more of buffer fill. the shutter stops when the camera is emptying out the buffer. of course some people dont experience this with a faster card used. The K-7 can take over 5 frames per second to a buffer of roughly 40 pictures. I can't believe his kids are moving that fast! This guy must be The Flash married to Wonder Woman! If that is not fast enough for you, I have one word you should consider: video. Last edited by PentaxPoke; 09-02-2009 at 12:20 PM.

09-02-2009, 08:51 PM	#59
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	How many wives have you had? I was once down on the river bank and heard two old men talking. One said to the other "Sam, I married the same woman seven times, names were different but she was always the same one". My bet is that you are one of the cursed ones that can go to Canon, Nikon, Oly, Sony, Sigma, or Fuji....and end up with a Pentax every time. Regards Rupert

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09-02-2009, 11:21 AM	#46
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	Originally posted by GeneralBenson That is not a word either... Sorry. ??? Originally posted by cardinal43 According to Wikipedia.....Irregardless is a term meaning in spite of or anyway, that has caused controversy since it first appeared in the early twentieth century. It is generally listed in dictionaries as "incorrect" or "nonstandard". There's no controversy. "Ir" means "not" (irresponsible = not responsible). Therefore, using the "ir" in front of "regardless" makes it mean the OPPOSITE of "in spite of or anyway." Not surprisingly, Wikipedia is stellar once again in its grasp of actual facts. So it is not a word in any useable sense. Last edited by gnaztee; 09-02-2009 at 04:12 PM. Reason: Poor proofreading

09-02-2009, 11:47 AM	#47
dylansalt Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Durban, South Africa Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,052	How on earth did I cope in the age of manual slr days when all my kids were young? Practice?? In fact I have tons of pics of my kids taken with an Oly 5060 prosumer cam-at swimming gala's,athletics,skateboarding,rollerblading, moto-x - practice practice and learn timing. I have played with a K7 and its focusing speed is way faster than the k10/20D and I have plenty action shots taken with the K10D as have others cheers Dylan

09-02-2009, 12:47 PM	#49
nostatic Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: socal Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,575	Originally posted by gnaztee ??? There's no controversy. "Ir" means "not" (irresponsible = not responsible). Therefore, using the "ir" in front of "regardless" makes it mean the OPPOSITE of "in spite of or anyway." Not surprisingly, Wikipedia is stellar once again in it's grasp of actual facts. So it is not a word in any useable sense. Me fail English? That's unpossible! YouTube - ralph wiggum funny moment

09-02-2009, 01:25 PM	#50
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	Originally posted by nostatic Me fail English? That's unpossible! YouTube - ralph wiggum funny moment Awesome

09-02-2009, 02:24 PM	#51
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by dylansalt How on earth did I cope in the age of manual slr days when all my kids were young? Practice?? In fact I have tons of pics of my kids taken with an Oly 5060 prosumer cam-at swimming gala's,athletics,skateboarding,rollerblading, moto-x - practice practice and learn timing. I have played with a K7 and its focusing speed is way faster than the k10/20D and I have plenty action shots taken with the K10D as have others cheers Dylan well, if it's focusing speed, the OP should had tried out shooting in lowlight using a K10D, K20D, and K7. as I said before, during my initial shooting tests done when my K7 arrived and tried it with a 35, it went firing like crazy in lowlight. it never even missed, not even once. and the focusing times it took if I would evaluate it is even below half a second (possibly a quarter). I used other lenses as well, other primes and zooms and still it performed very well. my experience with the K20D under the same condition however was not that good as it was struggling to focus and was more prone to focus error on most occasions. actually it was virtually kept on focus hunting back and forth til it gave up.

09-02-2009, 02:28 PM	#52
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by PentaxPoke The K-7 can take over 5 frames per second to a buffer of roughly 40 pictures. I can't believe his kids are moving that fast! This guy must be The Flash married to Wonder Woman! If that is not fast enough for you, I have one word you should consider: video. or someone who is faster than a speeding bullet. it is very capable. with a slow card, you need to decrease the IQ and MP size abit as well as turning of some correctional features. but with a faster card, I don't think it would have any problem keeping up the pace with a maximum image setting.

09-02-2009, 02:49 PM	#53
amateur6 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Gallery Posts: 177	Originally posted by gnaztee There's no controversy. "Ir" means "not" (irresponsible = not responsible). Therefore, using the "ir" in front of "regardless" makes it mean the OPPOSITE of "in spite of or anyway." Not surprisingly, Wikipedia is stellar once again in it's grasp of actual facts. So it is not a word in any useable sense. You're absolutely correct, but I find it ironic that you have incorrectly inserted an apostrophe in "it's grasp" -- "it's" is a contraction of "it is" while "its" is possessive.

09-02-2009, 04:10 PM	#54
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	You're right. I have a nasty habit of not proofreading my forum posts ...fixed (and thanks for noticing!)

09-02-2009, 04:42 PM	#55
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125	Originally posted by Damn Brit I fail to see the logic in selling all your gear before you tried the K-7. Maybe he had to sell his old gear to get money to buy new gear. He did not expect that the K-7 would not meet his expectations, if you know what I mean. Rob

09-02-2009, 04:49 PM	#56
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125	Originally posted by HeavyD Well I sold off all my gear, went down to Adorama to buy a K7 and came back empty handed. The K7 sure does feel nice and the new screen and menus are cool too. What I didn't like was that the AF/shutter lag and AFC is still slow compared to the other two major brands. I also did not like the fact that the new K7, like my older K10d will not burst shoot with flash. This is something that I miss when I had a Canon 30d. Didn't Imaging Resource find that the K-7's shutter lag was at least as good as the D300's? As far as AFC is concerned, user reports suggest that the K-7 may be somewhat behind the competition. That's too bad if you do the sort of photography that depends heavily on AFC. At the same time, the K-7 has in-camera SR, which gives it a huge advantage over the competition, IMO. Life is full of compromises. Rob

09-02-2009, 04:57 PM	#57
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Isn't it always the case that it is far easier to blame the camera instead of acknowledging poor technique, ability or the photographer's own failings. Those who think the K-7 is deficient should take a leaf from this excellent work done entirely with the K-7. For those old foggies who think that video has no place in the camera, well time for a re-think and break out of that old paradigm. YouTube - ?? (PENTAX K-7 MOVIE)

09-02-2009, 06:14 PM	#58
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	Seems like the type of person that switches brands every time a new interesting camera comes out. Originally posted by Damn Brit I fail to see the logic in selling all your gear before you tried the K-7.

09-02-2009, 09:09 PM	#60
Damn Brit Guest	I'm wondering how B&H felt about kids running around the store. Added to that, the light in the store may have had an impact on focusing.

K7 not that great

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