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09-04-2009, 10:37 PM   #1
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New K20d arrived today

Hell froze over today. UPS delivered something 4 days before it was suppossed to. I recieved my new k20d from Adorama today and, unlike the previous one ordered through B&H, this one is actaually "new." The box was pristine and everthing looked great. Only 220 Shutter count (as oppossed to the 390 on the returned one). I jus managed to set up most of the custom settings. This camera certainly has some heft. Its goign to take a while to get used to all of the external buttons. I keep confusing the ok button with the AF button.


But so far, so good. A couple of very quick shots seem to be better than shots from my k100ds. Colors look great






Going to be a long weekend. I think I will be spending a lot of time in the "study" with the manual.

09-04-2009, 11:11 PM   #2
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Congrats on the k20d....half the fun is learning to master all those settings.....it's a great camera You'll have to post a few Wisconsin shots for us.
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T_MB: The box was pristine and everthing looked great. Only 220 Shutter count (as oppossed to the 390 on the returned one).
Are you saying they are selling used cameras as new? What do you mean, "the box was pristine--only 220 shutter count"
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They test the cameras before they go out, so it's normal to have a few hundred shots on a brand new camera. Not sure if the OP had *other* evidence his first K20D was not new, but 390 shots is not out of line in the least.

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220 vs 390 shutter count is insignificant.
Your camera is fine, now go an enjoy it!
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Enjoy that camera, it's a great piece of kit.
09-06-2009, 04:34 AM   #7
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Message from Helen, Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

QuoteOriginally posted by T_MB Quote
Hell froze over today. UPS delivered something 4 days before it was suppossed to. I recieved my new k20d from Adorama today .......The box was pristine and everthing looked great.
Delighted to hear it - and I love the cat!

If there are any problems, do let me know.


Sincerely

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Digital cameras, all other cameras and everything photographic from Adorama Camera

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Congrats my friend!
Keep shooting and posting.

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They test the cameras before they go out, so it's normal to have a few hundred shots on a brand new camera. Not sure if the OP had *other* evidence his first K20D was not new, but 390 shots is not out of line in the least.
Yes. First camera already had language set and the time zone set for the midwest. It also had some default settings altered, smudges on LCD screen, inordinate amount of dust on mirror out of the box, and the box itself showed signs of wear such as creases in the "tounge" flaps and unusual wear on the edges of the box.

My new camera needed the language/time zone set (just as the manual says), had no dust on the mirror, no default settings altered, and just looked and felt "new" out of the box.
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I LOVE this new camera. I took the shot below earlier tonight at dusk. Handheld, no post-processing (although being the doof I am, I forgot to switch the camera to RAW mode from my earlier practice session). Just amazing color and detail!



Camera: Pentax K20D
Exposure: 0.5
Aperture: f/4.0
Focal Length: 16 mm
ISO Speed: 1600
Exposure Bias: +2 EV
Flash: Off, Did not fire
File Size: 8.7 MB
File Type: JPEG
MIME Type: image/jpeg
Image Width: 4672
Image Height: 3104
Encoding Process: Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample: 8
Color Components: 3
X-Resolution: 72 dpi
Y-Resolution: 72 dpi
Image Width: 4672
Image Height: 3104
Bits Per Sample: 8 8 8
Compression: Uncompressed
Photometric Interpretation: RGB
Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
Samples Per Pixel: 3
Planar Configuration: Chunky
Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 Windows
Date and Time (Modified): 2009:09:07 20:56:33
Copyright: Timothy M. Barber 2009
Exposure Program: Manual
Date and Time (Original): 2009:09:07 19:56:50-05:00
Date and Time (Digitized): 2009:09:07 19:56:50
Metering Mode: Center-weighted average
Color Space: Unknown (-1)
Sensing Method: One-chip color area
Custom Rendered: Custom
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Manual
Focal Length In35mm Format: 24 mm
Scene Capture Type: Standard
Contrast: High
Saturation: Normal
Sharpness: Hard
Subject Distance Range: Distant
Gamma: 2.2
Compression: JPEG (old-style)
Copyright Notice: Timothy M. Barber 2009
Global Angle: 30
Global Altitude: 30
Copyright Flag: False
Photoshop Quality: 12
Photoshop Format: Standard
Progressive Scans: 3 Scans
XMPToolkit: Adobe XMP Core 4.1.3-c001 49.282696, Mon Apr 02 2007 21:16:10
Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
Compression: Uncompressed
Photometric Interpretation: RGB
Samples Per Pixel: 3
Planar Configuration: Chunky
Bits Per Sample: 8
Creator Tool: Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 Windows
Metadata Date: 2009:09:07 20:56:33-05:00
Format: image/jpeg
Rights: Timothy M. Barber 2009
Color Mode: 3
ICCProfile Name: Adobe RGB (1998)
Color Transform: YCbCr
Flash Return: No return detection
Flash Mode: Off
Flash Function: False
Flash Red Eye Mode: False
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T_MB: Yes. First camera already had language set and the time zone set for the midwest. It also had some default settings altered, smudges on LCD screen, inordinate amount of dust on mirror out of the box, and the box itself showed signs of wear such as creases in the "tounge" flaps and unusual wear on the edges of the box.
I had a similar experience with them, but shutter count was over a thousand--disturbing. I reported this to Pentax directly--in Colorado. They felt the shutter count was the result of a memory card problem which can result when you use a memory card from another camera. I could not prove it one way or the other, but my box was anything but new looking too.

Surely, a thousand shots are not needed to test anyone's camera. However, I trusted the system and stayed with my first K20d, though at first I felt much discomfort from the situation. I am happy to report the camera has worked flawlessly, so I am okay with it now.
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