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Jewelltrail · 10-05-2009, 08:12 AM

The bottom line bodes well for Pentax: "Highly Recommended"!

WMBP · 10-05-2009, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by GLXLR

I wonder why the value is only 8.5 when the D300s is like $700 more expensive...

I think the K-7 competes both with the D300 and also with the much cheaper Nikon D90 (currently $815 at Amazon) and the Canon 50D (currently $1042 at Amazon). The Pentax K-7's price at Amazon currently is $1100. (All prices are for body only.) If you compare the four cameras side by side, simply in terms of specs in a list, the K-7 seems to sit somewhere in between the D90 and the D300.

Will

Class A · 10-06-2009, 12:21 AM

Shake reduction is not mentioned as a plus in the conclusion. Either it is a glaring omission or the reviewers believe that it is as much a positive (stabilisation for fast primes, wide angles, legacy lenses, cheaper lenses) as it is a negative point (no lens-specific stabilisation for long focal lenses)?.

**Rondec** · 10-06-2009, 04:55 AM

They tried to test the Shake Reduction using the FA 50 and they felt like it only gave about two stops of shake reduction (much less than the three to four stops others have experienced). Basically they felt like it helps some, but not as much as either Olympus' system or, in lens shake reduction.

Class A · 10-06-2009, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

They tried to test the Shake Reduction using the FA 50 and they felt like it only gave about two stops of shake reduction (much less than the three to four stops others have experienced).

So that isn't a "plus" anymore?

BTW, I don't agree with their testing method which involves holding the camera with one hand only. That's not realistic. That's not what a SR system should be designed to handle.

WerTicus · 10-06-2009, 11:02 AM

k7, isnt a bad camera but its just not what i would consider a major update.... a k20d with video... and at the expense of noise due to the faster read out chip. (Ill hold out for the k8!

Pentax's model line up is all over the place at the moment imo, its not really clear what is what. I bet a real k20d replacement is still coming and the k7 is a k200d replacement.

Class A · 10-06-2009, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by WerTicus

k7, isnt a bad camera but its just not what i would consider a major update.... a k20d with video...

Perhaps you should have another good lock at all the improvements and additions that were made...

Pentaxor · 10-07-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by WerTicus

k7, isnt a bad camera but its just not what i would consider a major update.... a k20d with video... and at the expense of noise due to the faster read out chip. (Ill hold out for the k8!

Pentax's model line up is all over the place at the moment imo, its not really clear what is what. I bet a real k20d replacement is still coming and the k7 is a k200d replacement.

I believe you haven't really tried out the K-7 yet personallly and based your conclusion on the statements of some people here. maybe you should give it a little bit of a whirl. you might get surprised what it is capable of doing more than just a K20D with video and improved noise (chroma) output.

yes, I said Improved Noise output since there is less disruptive noise as to increased noise details. but aside from those two misconceptions regarding the K-7, you should need to to take a closer look.

PolishMike · 10-07-2009, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

I believe you haven't really tried out the K-7 yet personallly and based your conclusion on the statements of some people here. maybe you should give it a little bit of a whirl. you might get surprised what it is capable of doing more than just a K20D with video and improved noise (chroma) output.

Yeah, basically that. There's more to the K-7 vs. the K20D than a run-down of specs can really convey. The K-7 really is a much more responsive and usable camera (but I admit, I have had little experience with the K20). The K-7 really is a joy to take pictures with. Sure, not a real reason to upgrade for K20D owners, but for people torn between the two, I would say go for the K-7 if you have the extra cash.

samuelk · 10-08-2009, 11:32 AM

I'm not sure this part of the review is correct:

Quote:

The K-7 has a 'P-TTL' pop-up flash unit which has an electronic catch-type release (meaning it can be raised manually or automatically by the camera).

I'm pretty sure that my K-7 never pops up the flash automatically.

10-06-2009, 12:21 AM	#18
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Shake reduction is not mentioned as a plus in the conclusion. Either it is a glaring omission or the reviewers believe that it is as much a positive (stabilisation for fast primes, wide angles, legacy lenses, cheaper lenses) as it is a negative point (no lens-specific stabilisation for long focal lenses)?. Last edited by Class A; 10-06-2009 at 12:41 AM.

10-07-2009, 11:45 AM	#23
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by WerTicus k7, isnt a bad camera but its just not what i would consider a major update.... a k20d with video... and at the expense of noise due to the faster read out chip. (Ill hold out for the k8! Pentax's model line up is all over the place at the moment imo, its not really clear what is what. I bet a real k20d replacement is still coming and the k7 is a k200d replacement. I believe you haven't really tried out the K-7 yet personallly and based your conclusion on the statements of some people here. maybe you should give it a little bit of a whirl. you might get surprised what it is capable of doing more than just a K20D with video and improved noise (chroma) output. yes, I said Improved Noise output since there is less disruptive noise as to increased noise details. but aside from those two misconceptions regarding the K-7, you should need to to take a closer look. Last edited by Pentaxor; 10-07-2009 at 01:12 PM.

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10-05-2009, 08:12 AM	#16
Jewelltrail Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 4,180	The bottom line bodes well for Pentax: "Highly Recommended"!

10-05-2009, 09:15 AM	#17
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	Originally posted by GLXLR I wonder why the value is only 8.5 when the D300s is like $700 more expensive... I think the K-7 competes both with the D300 and also with the much cheaper Nikon D90 (currently $815 at Amazon) and the Canon 50D (currently $1042 at Amazon). The Pentax K-7's price at Amazon currently is $1100. (All prices are for body only.) If you compare the four cameras side by side, simply in terms of specs in a list, the K-7 seems to sit somewhere in between the D90 and the D300. Will

10-06-2009, 04:55 AM	#19
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	They tried to test the Shake Reduction using the FA 50 and they felt like it only gave about two stops of shake reduction (much less than the three to four stops others have experienced). Basically they felt like it helps some, but not as much as either Olympus' system or, in lens shake reduction.

10-06-2009, 05:27 AM	#20
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Rondec They tried to test the Shake Reduction using the FA 50 and they felt like it only gave about two stops of shake reduction (much less than the three to four stops others have experienced). So that isn't a "plus" anymore? BTW, I don't agree with their testing method which involves holding the camera with one hand only. That's not realistic. That's not what a SR system should be designed to handle.

10-06-2009, 11:02 AM	#21
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	k7, isnt a bad camera but its just not what i would consider a major update.... a k20d with video... and at the expense of noise due to the faster read out chip. (Ill hold out for the k8! Pentax's model line up is all over the place at the moment imo, its not really clear what is what. I bet a real k20d replacement is still coming and the k7 is a k200d replacement.

10-06-2009, 02:02 PM	#22
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by WerTicus k7, isnt a bad camera but its just not what i would consider a major update.... a k20d with video... Perhaps you should have another good lock at all the improvements and additions that were made...

10-07-2009, 04:50 PM	#24
PolishMike Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 150	Originally posted by Pentaxor I believe you haven't really tried out the K-7 yet personallly and based your conclusion on the statements of some people here. maybe you should give it a little bit of a whirl. you might get surprised what it is capable of doing more than just a K20D with video and improved noise (chroma) output. Yeah, basically that. There's more to the K-7 vs. the K20D than a run-down of specs can really convey. The K-7 really is a much more responsive and usable camera (but I admit, I have had little experience with the K20). The K-7 really is a joy to take pictures with. Sure, not a real reason to upgrade for K20D owners, but for people torn between the two, I would say go for the K-7 if you have the extra cash.

10-08-2009, 11:32 AM	#25
samuelk New Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2	I'm not sure this part of the review is correct: Quote: The K-7 has a 'P-TTL' pop-up flash unit which has an electronic catch-type release (meaning it can be raised manually or automatically by the camera). I'm pretty sure that my K-7 never pops up the flash automatically.

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