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10-14-2009, 11:33 AM   #1
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K10D vs. K200D

Sorry if this question has been posed before but I didn't want to look through 100's of pages of threads.
My wife is in secure posession of the K20D leavng me with the istDL. I love the ist as a knock around but want more pixels for other occasions. Was going to buy a second K20d but waited too long and price has gone back up (yeah I'm a cheap old man). So I'm considering a K10 or a K200. There is not a retailer that has any Pentax DSLR's on the shelf within 200 miles of me so I can't physically look at the K200.
Help me out here guys. If you've had experience with both bodies , clue me in

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bad luck with th K20D price...
anyway, K10 and 200 are using the same sensor. RAW files should be therefore identical. K200 is newer, and has better in camera processing, so if you are shooting JPGs you'll probably see difference. K10 can deliver great JPGs too but needs some tweaking with the settings + the high ISO processing is worse than K200 (as far as I know)
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K10 has 2 edials, so does it's grip (the same as for K20). K200 has only one dial, and grip doesn't have any!!!
I only own K10 but I won't be parting with it anytime soon. It's a great camera and these days you can get used bodies in great shape for next to nothing..

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I have owned and used the ist DS, K100D, K10D and K20D. I have the ist DS here as an occasional-use camera, but most of the time I use either the K10D or the K20D. I could not live without (a) two e-dials and (b) hyperprogram mode.

So if it were me, I'd buy the K10D rather than the K200D...

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I've have the *istDS, K100DS and K200Ds. It's purely subjective but the K200 is my own best fit for handling and functionality and has all pixel-power I need. Eneloop and lithium AA batteries are fine. The K200 grip is available for less than $40 if you need that and the accessory focus screens are common to the *ist and K100s so aren't hard to find. Both type AF drives work with the K100DS and K200D.

I've handled/borrowed the K10 and K20 but the bodies are just enough larger that I prefer the K200 or the DS. A second E-dial would be nice but I don't consider it an overriding feature and I've NEVER had to mess about with the lens/focus calibration that seems to be common with the 10 and 20.

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I have used the K100D and K10D - figuring the K200D is reasonably similar to the K100D apart from the sensor, I too would say the extra customisability and at-your-fingertips settings of the K10D is worth it.

It has indeed been a well discussed topic, so see these threads as well:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/19278-k10d-k200d.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/24661-k200d-vs-k10...-af-speed.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/47062-probably-abo...200d-k10d.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/75621-k200d-k10d-o...ould-keep.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/19072-dont-forget-...ing-k200d.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-beginners-corner-q/73681-used-k10d-k200d.html

Hope this helps.
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Since you have experience with botht he DL and the K20D, that makes it easier:

The K200D is very much like the DL - same basic body design and viewfinder, but a bit bigger because of SR and weather sealing. Plus it has a few more features (like selectable focus points, availability of a battery grip, etc).

The K10D is like the K20D - same basic body design and viewfinder, but without quite as many features (no per-lens AF fine adjustment, etc).

So if you consider the basic body design of the K20D a significant improvement overall compared to the DL - eg, you value bigger bodies, bigger viewfinders, Li-Ion batteries, and/or more external controls - get the K10D. If you prefer the basic body design of the DL - valuing smaller bodies, AA batteries, and/or less complexity - then the K200D makes more sense.

If the differences in bodies doens't concern you, I'd get the K200D for its better high ISO performance (despite the same sensor, it's a radically different A/D converter design).
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Did you check out the thread where someone reported factory refurb K20ds for 500 bucks? That doesn't sound too bad... And there's the forum here. Very worthwhile if you can swing one.

That said, I wasn't expecting the sudden price drop and windfall that got me my K20d: before then I was planning on pretty much making the same choice. I've handled a K200d and thought it felt really good for the size group, but I would have gone with the K10d, as possible. The feel and the controls and the real prism are pretty much a heck-yeah, that's what I'd want factor for me.

(Which isn't to say I would have been sad if it turned out a K200d was what I met the price for, rather than a used K10d: either way I was pretty sure I might want an upgrade, soon.... the K20d was to be my upgrade path. I'm glad I didn't have to buy twice, though, this fellow is at a level I think I can live for quite a long time. Sufficient to my familiar ways of doing things. I think it'll be some really nice high ISO that finally tempts me to upgrade. Anyway, I thought the K200d was pretty nice, too. Impressed me enough to choose a K20d sight unseen, and I'm all about how things feel. )

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
Did you check out the thread where someone reported factory refurb K20ds for 500 bucks? . )
All gone , but thanks for the tip.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
Since you have experience with botht he DL and the K20D, that makes it easier:

The K200D is very much like the DL - same basic body design and viewfinder, but a bit bigger because of SR and weather sealing. Plus it has a few more features (like selectable focus points, availability of a battery grip, etc).

The K10D is like the K20D - same basic body design and viewfinder, but without quite as many features (no per-lens AF fine adjustment, etc).

So if you consider the basic body design of the K20D a significant improvement overall compared to the DL - eg, you value bigger bodies, bigger viewfinders, Li-Ion batteries, and/or more external controls - get the K10D. If you prefer the basic body design of the DL - valuing smaller bodies, AA batteries, and/or less complexity - then the K200D makes more sense.

If the differences in bodies doens't concern you, I'd get the K200D for its better high ISO performance (despite the same sensor, it's a radically different A/D converter design).
What would make it easier would be if Pentax stopped introducing new models like rabbits introduce baby rabbits. I shot film with basicly 2 bodies for over 25 years . I switched to digital a little over a year ago and I'm allready considering a third and fourth body style.
My current line of thought is that the k10 is a step backwards from the k20 but the k200 is a step up from the DL as a knock around. I think I'm gonna give my DL to a buddy, order the K200 and watch the prices on the K7 for a while. Besides if I really need to use the K-20 I can tie up the wife or grab it while she's not looking.
Thanks for the advice , the better performance at high ISO really does play a major role in my decission.

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QuoteOriginally posted by seacapt Quote
What would make it easier would be if Pentax stopped introducing new models like rabbits introduce baby rabbits. I shot film with basicly 2 bodies for over 25 years . I switched to digital a little over a year ago and I'm allready considering a third and fourth body style.
My current line of thought is that the k10 is a step backwards from the k20 but the k200 is a step up from the DL as a knock around. I think I'm gonna give my DL to a buddy, order the K200 and watch the prices on the K7 for a while. Besides if I really need to use the K-20 I can tie up the wife or grab it while she's not looking.
Thanks for the advice , the better performance at high ISO really does play a major role in my decission.
Wise choice. The K200 was once called ther K10 light. I love my K100 for that reason s my K10 is heavier, but more rugged. My K100 gets a lot more use because of that with casual, everyday shooting. My K10 stays on the dresser attached to my flash bracket waiting for my next wedding or sports event.
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Went with the K200 ordered it today. Best Buy is out of K20 Refurbs but has both K200's and K10's for virtually the same price , under $400

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Went with the K200 ordered it today. Best Buy is out of K20 Refurbs but has both K200's and K10's for virtually the same price , under $400
Congrats. I think the K200 is a fantastic camera, and a true bargain at the Best Buy refurb price. Enjoy.
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