K-7 Firmware 1.02 ready for download

brosen · 10-21-2009, 08:47 PM

Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

netuser · 10-22-2009, 02:26 AM

Thanks. It was already reported on other threads

GSk · 10-22-2009, 03:18 AM

Thx, updated firmware as soon as I read this post.

GerryL · 10-22-2009, 02:52 PM

Could this firmware make it par with K-x high ISO performance?
It doesn't say on the firmware.

deadwolfbones · 10-22-2009, 03:13 PM

Seriously doubt it. There are certain sensor limitations that firmware cannot overcome.

jacksonpritt · 10-22-2009, 04:14 PM

I agree with deadwolfbones.

They may be able to improve the JPEG compression or something, but I think the K7 is just stuck with crappy high ISO.

I hope we can see some new high ISO images from cameras running the update soon, but I doubt there will be much difference.

flyer · 10-22-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by jacksonpritt

but I think the K7 is just stuck with crappy high ISO.

Just a few years ago, the level of performance of the K-7 was unthinkable. It might not be FF performance, but it still does a very good job. When shooting RAW, there is not much difference between a Nikon D300 and a Pentax K-7. But when it comes to price, there is a big difference. If you think the high ISO on the K-7 is crappy, you might want to migrate toward Sony or Olympus. Then, you could complain.

Sew-Classic · 10-22-2009, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by flyer

Just a few years ago, the level of performance of the K-7 was unthinkable. It might not be FF performance, but it still does a very good job. When shooting RAW, there is not much difference between a Nikon D300 and a Pentax K-7. But when it comes to price, there is a big difference. If you think the high ISO on the K-7 is crappy, you might want to migrate toward Sony or Olympus. Then, you could complain.

According to the 'tests' at DP review, the raw output on the Nikon D300 and the K-7 "produce similar amounts of noise at all ISO settings".

I snapped a few quick shots of some crap on my desk, handheld, fluorescent lighting, straight from the K-7 jpeg, default NR settings. The photos were resized - no other PP. I did install the new firmware already, but the high iso jpeg's look the same as before to me.

iso 800

iso 1600

iso3200

kittykat46 · 10-22-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by jacksonpritt

I ........but I think the K7 is just stuck with crappy high ISO.

I suppose high-ISO performance can be very subjective, but I've had a lot of fun with the K-7 at ISO3200 in difficult lighting conditions.

I shoot RAW, apply default Noise Reduction, and the ISO3200 photos from the "crappy" K-7 sensor look good to me.

Sew-Classic · 10-22-2009, 06:17 PM

What program do you use to apply NR to your RAW shots?

I'm considering dipping my toes into the PP pond.

flyer · 10-23-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Sew-Classic

According to the 'tests' at DP review, the raw output on the Nikon D300 and the K-7 "produce similar amounts of noise at all ISO settings".

I snapped a few quick shots of some crap on my desk, handheld, fluorescent lighting, straight from the K-7 jpeg, default NR settings. The photos were resized - no other PP. I did install the new firmware already, but the high iso jpeg's look the same as before to me.

Shooting JPEG, the noise is higher in the K-7. Pentax does not process the JPEGs as heavily as Canon or Nikon to preserve details. The JPEGs from the Nikon D300 look smoother, but it's at the expense of the details. If you want to get the maximum out of your camera in low light, you have to shoot RAW.

10-21-2009, 08:47 PM	#1
brosen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US Posts: 183	K-7 Firmware 1.02 ready for download Latest K-7 Firmware Update : Software Downloads : PENTAX

10-22-2009, 05:25 PM	#8
Sew-Classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 238	Originally posted by flyer Just a few years ago, the level of performance of the K-7 was unthinkable. It might not be FF performance, but it still does a very good job. When shooting RAW, there is not much difference between a Nikon D300 and a Pentax K-7. But when it comes to price, there is a big difference. If you think the high ISO on the K-7 is crappy, you might want to migrate toward Sony or Olympus. Then, you could complain. According to the 'tests' at DP review, the raw output on the Nikon D300 and the K-7 "produce similar amounts of noise at all ISO settings". I snapped a few quick shots of some crap on my desk, handheld, fluorescent lighting, straight from the K-7 jpeg, default NR settings. The photos were resized - no other PP. I did install the new firmware already, but the high iso jpeg's look the same as before to me. iso 800 iso 1600 iso3200 Last edited by Sew-Classic; 10-23-2009 at 09:30 AM. Reason: typo

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netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Thanks. It was already reported on other threads

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GSk Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sørumsand, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59	Thx, updated firmware as soon as I read this post.

10-22-2009, 02:52 PM	#4
GerryL Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Posts: 2,731	Could this firmware make it par with K-x high ISO performance? It doesn't say on the firmware.

10-22-2009, 03:13 PM	#5
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Seriously doubt it. There are certain sensor limitations that firmware cannot overcome.

10-22-2009, 04:14 PM	#6
jacksonpritt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 124	I agree with deadwolfbones. They may be able to improve the JPEG compression or something, but I think the K7 is just stuck with crappy high ISO. I hope we can see some new high ISO images from cameras running the update soon, but I doubt there will be much difference.

10-22-2009, 04:45 PM	#7
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	Originally posted by jacksonpritt but I think the K7 is just stuck with crappy high ISO. Just a few years ago, the level of performance of the K-7 was unthinkable. It might not be FF performance, but it still does a very good job. When shooting RAW, there is not much difference between a Nikon D300 and a Pentax K-7. But when it comes to price, there is a big difference. If you think the high ISO on the K-7 is crappy, you might want to migrate toward Sony or Olympus. Then, you could complain.

10-22-2009, 06:14 PM	#9
kittykat46 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 923	Originally posted by jacksonpritt I ........but I think the K7 is just stuck with crappy high ISO. I suppose high-ISO performance can be very subjective, but I've had a lot of fun with the K-7 at ISO3200 in difficult lighting conditions. I shoot RAW, apply default Noise Reduction, and the ISO3200 photos from the "crappy" K-7 sensor look good to me.

10-22-2009, 06:17 PM	#10
Sew-Classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 238	What program do you use to apply NR to your RAW shots? I'm considering dipping my toes into the PP pond.

10-23-2009, 01:41 PM	#11
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	Originally posted by Sew-Classic According to the 'tests' at DP review, the raw output on the Nikon D300 and the K-7 "produce similar amounts of noise at all ISO settings". I snapped a few quick shots of some crap on my desk, handheld, fluorescent lighting, straight from the K-7 jpeg, default NR settings. The photos were resized - no other PP. I did install the new firmware already, but the high iso jpeg's look the same as before to me. Shooting JPEG, the noise is higher in the K-7. Pentax does not process the JPEGs as heavily as Canon or Nikon to preserve details. The JPEGs from the Nikon D300 look smoother, but it's at the expense of the details. If you want to get the maximum out of your camera in low light, you have to shoot RAW.

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