[ebooks4pentax]

I have the K-7 which is really the best Pentax DSLR so far. I also purchased the K-x and it does have better Image Quality at high ISO. I use both but most of the time I prefer the K-7.

What I wish for is a K-7x. The technology and technical abilities of the K-7 with the same sensor as the K-x. 12.4 MP is the sweet spot for APS-C sensor.

[zxaar]

k-x in top 20 now. Finally a cam for pentax that is selling well:


Top Selling DSLR Charts - Thursday December 3

Hopefully pentax would not look back from here.

[Andrew Faires]

There's no regrets about the k-7 for me at all. It's about 95% of everything I've ever wanted in a DSLR. In fact, I've had no regrets about getting one as early as I did (at the slightly higher price).

[dragonfly]

12.4 MP is the sweet spot for APS-C sensor.

What is the basis for this statement?

I'm going to have to change my vote from not having a K-7 to I'd rather keep it.

[Recercare]

I got the chance to test the K-X and K-7 this weekend. They're both great cameras, but I don't understand how anyone can choose the K-X if they can afford the K-7. The K-7 is a better camera in all respects except from IQ at ISO values higher than 1600. At ISO 200-1100 the K-7 provides more details.

Kind regards
.lars

[Pentaxor]

I got the chance to test the K-X and K-7 this weekend. They're both great cameras, but I don't understand how anyone can choose the K-X if they can afford the K-7. The K-7 is a better camera in all respects except from IQ at ISO values higher than 1600. At ISO 200-1100 the K-7 provides more details.

Kind regards
.lars

simple, plain idiotism ! otherwise nitpicking for something by someone who can't afford to spend much but pretends to have the means to. some people are just way over their heads thinking that spreading BS would make the cheaper k-x better overall. oh well, I guess this is another way of trying to mask one's K-7 envy.

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Last edited by Pentaxor; 12-07-2009 at 03:54 AM.

[zxaar]

I got the chance to test the K-X and K-7 this weekend. They're both great cameras, but I don't understand how anyone can choose the K-X if they can afford the K-7. The K-7 is a better camera in all respects except from IQ at ISO values higher than 1600. At ISO 200-1100 the K-7 provides more details.

Kind regards
.lars

well i did chose kx over k7. I shoot in fully manual mode 70% of my lenses are manual lenses. I chose iso, apperture, shutter. And i do not take my camera in bad weather. Almost all the features of k7 are useless to me, except for image quality.

If i had a choice better a camera that has a wonderful image quality and only provided me with four things i just mentioned, 1000 out of 1000 times i will pick cam with better image quality.
People chose different things for different reasons, there is no one rule for all.

[zxaar]

simple, plain idiotism ! otherwise nitpicking for something by someone who can't afford to spend much but pretends to have the means to. some people are just way over their heads thinking that spreading BS would make the cheaper k-x better overall. oh well, I guess this is another way of trying to mask one's K-7 envy.

fanboy-ism at its best.

anyway your post was cheap shot at me, so here it goes:



in case you can not count there are 6 cameras in picture. I did not include all the film gear (mamiya + pentax) for you because they are in india and i am in japan.

Plus one camera i am holding.

So stop this nonsense that if someone did not buy your camera he could not afford it, it show you as an idiot.

[Pentaxor]

fanboy-ism at its best.

anyway your post was cheap shot at me, so here it goes:



in case you can not count there are 6 cameras in picture. I did not include all the film gear (mamiya + pentax) for you because they are in india and i am in japan.

Plus one camera i am holding.

So stop this nonsense that if someone did not buy your camera he could not afford it, it show you as an idiot.

fanboy? DUH ! I'd be getting a D700 rather than a k-x, fyi.

do I hear guilt on your part? it sucks to be guilty isn't it? lemme recall, you are that guy who complains alot and cant get a decent photo with the K-7? I guess you'd stick to your gears because you don't know how to handle a great gadget. simple as that. blame it on the non-reliable, non-existing camera problem blah blahs that you are making a big deal of at dpreview as a source? that's your proof? so who's talking nonsense again? favor, please go back at me if you have seen atleast a fourth of the K-7 owners who exchanged theirs for a K-x. please give me a REAL number ! otherwise, HUSH !

[Pentaxor]

ran out of funds?

btw, your camera lineup is not impressive, you could had bought those without spending a fortune right now. and please, spare me of showing a MAMIYA ZD BACK if you have one because those are for people who have the real cash for it and knew what they're doing. otherwise, HUSH !

since you spend a lot of time reading or looking for whatever boohoo problems the K-7 have, maybe you could look for whatever problems your current gears have as well, including your much beloved k-x. oh, I just remembered, you're more interested in IQ and not any other problems that the k-x have (really nitpicking, eh?). I bet my P&S can kick your k-x's IQ around anytime of the day or night at BASE ISO. or haven't you known that yet?

[erickallemeyn]

Relax, Pentaxxor. This isn't dpreview.

It's not the gear that makes the photo, remember? If you shoot at base ISO and don't need shallow DOF, then sure, a point and shoot would work just fine. But the benefits of a DSLR are many, K7 and KX included. But why pay more for K7 features if you won't be using them?

I don't need weather sealing or a top mount LCD or even focus point indicators. My shooting style is such that I like to focus and recompose, typically at ISO 3200 or more with a low shutter sped, and I like the shallow DOF that a DSLR gives. K-X is perfect for me with in body SR on my DA 21mm pancake. It's one of the most portable low-light DSLR setups available!

Also, many tests put the K-X sensor about 1 full stop better than the K7 at higher ISOs. True, low high ISO noise does NOT make it a better camera overall, but it tips the scale for some. To each his own, right?

C'mon, we shoot PENTAX. If we wanted to have ridiculous discussions like this, we should go to dpreview cannon vs Nikon thread.

[zxaar]

fanboy? DUH ! I'd be getting a D700 rather than a k-x, fyi.

do I hear guilt on your part? it sucks to be guilty isn't it? lemme recall, you are that guy who complains alot and cant get a decent photo with the K-7? I guess you'd stick to your gears because you don't know how to handle a great gadget. simple as that. blame it on the non-reliable, non-existing camera problem blah blahs that you are making a big deal of at dpreview as a source? that's your proof? so who's talking nonsense again? favor, please go back at me if you have seen atleast a fourth of the K-7 owners who exchanged theirs for a K-x. please give me a REAL number ! otherwise, HUSH !

this is what you got after made to look as an i d i o t.

your point was i can not afford k7.

your second point was i should learn to take photos. So here it is my profile at 1x.com , judged by other photographers.

1x.com - Onexposure

not museum worthy but good enough.

[zxaar]

Relax, Pentaxxor. This isn't dpreview.

It's not the gear that makes the photo, remember? If you shoot at base ISO and don't need shallow DOF, then sure, a point and shoot would work just fine. But the benefits of a DSLR are many, K7 and KX included. But why pay more for K7 features if you won't be using them?

I don't need weather sealing or a top mount LCD or even focus point indicators. My shooting style is such that I like to focus and recompose, typically at ISO 3200 or more with a low shutter sped, and I like the shallow DOF that a DSLR gives. K-X is perfect for me with in body SR on my DA 21mm pancake. It's one of the most portable low-light DSLR setups available!

Also, many tests put the K-X sensor about 1 full stop better than the K7 at higher ISOs. True, low high ISO noise does NOT make it a better camera overall, but it tips the scale for some. To each his own, right?

C'mon, we shoot PENTAX. If we wanted to have ridiculous discussions like this, we should go to dpreview cannon vs Nikon thread.

its difficult for him to understand.

[Pentaxor]

Relax, Pentaxxor. This isn't dpreview.

It's not the gear that makes the photo, remember? If you shoot at base ISO and don't need shallow DOF, then sure, a point and shoot would work just fine. But the benefits of a DSLR are many, K7 and KX included. But why pay more for K7 features if you won't be using them?

I don't need weather sealing or a top mount LCD or even focus point indicators. My shooting style is such that I like to focus and recompose, typically at ISO 3200 or more with a low shutter sped, and I like the shallow DOF that a DSLR gives. K-X is perfect for me with in body SR on my DA 21mm pancake. It's one of the most portable low-light DSLR setups available!

Also, many tests put the K-X sensor about 1 full stop better than the K7 at higher ISOs. True, low high ISO noise does NOT make it a better camera overall, but it tips the scale for some. To each his own, right?

C'mon, we shoot PENTAX. If we wanted to have ridiculous discussions like this, we should go to dpreview cannon vs Nikon thread.

dont worry. I'm aware of that. I just want to point out that some people can be boneheads and can't see what a real advantage is from a make-believe one, especially regarding base-ISOs. putting aside the DOF differences, determining base ISO superiority nowadays doesn't really give or atleast really show a real advantage of one dslr camera over the other, no matter what camera brand it is. if we want to see a real advantage, you must have an dSLR camera lower than a 100 ISO. the old film SLRs have them and so does other P&S cameras. that is if we talk about BASE ISO. it is nonsense to discuss about comparing dslr cameras with the same base ISO of 100, because there isn't a real advantage as to NOISE. if we are going to talk about DR, well we are talking about the wrong cameras to compare with. the K7 nor the K-x aren't the best HDR cameras, so it is pointless. neither cameras impresses me in that department. better do it during post-processing.

High ISO superiority is another discussion, but as the name implies, it says HIGH ISO.