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10-25-2009, 10:05 PM   #16
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With that said, I find it quite challenging to switch back and forth betweem my K10D and the K-7 due to the different placement of the EV and green buttons. I seem to stop dead in my tracks whenever I want to change the EV compensation until I figure out what camera I'm holding. When I had the K10D paired with the K20D, it was econd nature to adjust the EV! I may end up buying a second K-7 as backup for my K-7 (!), and retire the K10D.
Same thing happened on the weekend when I was shooting with both my K7 and K10D. I would want to change EV compensation on the K7, but it wasn't reacting the way I it was supposed to! Then I realised I was on the K7 and the EV button is up top. Sometimes, I also didn't really know what camera I was using when I viewed though the VF until I hit the shutter: if it was a loud clunky slap, then it was the K10D, if it was smooth and quiet, it was the K7

Hehe, maybe it's a reason go to 2x k7s...

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I hate all this too, but it took me a while to figure out how to turn everything off on the K-x's display so stuff wasn't always flashing me in the face.

When I now start the K-x up, I get a blank screen at the back by default. When I shoot an image, no annoying instant review image comes up, nor anything else either. The power on LED on top of the camera is also off all the time, and there is also nothing displayed when I change mode dial settings.

To turn off the back display status screen under capture mode, press the INFO button until you get a blank screen. It will stay blank until you turn the camera off or press another button.

To have the camera start up with a blank status screen, make the screen blank by pressing the INFO button until the screen is blank, then go into the Menu, page 4, and under 'Memory', go to p2 and make sure the 'Shooting Info Display' item is ticked. Then exit the Menu and restart the camera. You will then always start up to a blank status screen.

To turn off the Instant Review, goto Menu, p3 and turn off 'Instant Review'.

To turn off the top LED, go to the Custom Menu, Item 20, and set the 'Power lamp' to off.

To turn off the Mode Dial guide display as you change shooting modes, go into Menu > Settings > Guide Display, and set it to Off.

It took me a while to figure this all out, but now the camera is completely dark until I want it to show something.
Thanks for that information. I bet that will be quite useful.
So when you want to see anything on the screen, you have to press Info first?
Also, before you changed everything:
When you changed AV compensation with the wheel - the screen came on, right? How long does it stay on then and will it go black when you half press the shutter button?
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QuoteOriginally posted by HogRider Quote
So when you want to see anything on the screen, you have to press Info first?
Also, before you changed everything:
When you changed AV compensation with the wheel - the screen came on, right? How long does it stay on then and will it go black when you half press the shutter button?
Yes, I need to press INFO, PLAY, LV, MENU, OK or any of the four-way controller buttons for the rear screen to illuminate now. Camera is dark at startup and stays that way all through shooting.

If I recall, when I changed AV compensation using the dial the rear screen didn't illuminate before and it doesn't now. Didn't on the K200D either I think

Also if the status screen is active - or the menu, PLAY etc - and you half- press the K-x shutter, they go blank by default.

This behaviour seems mostly modifiable via the menus. There may even be a setting in there to illuminate the status screen when AV is modified using the wheel, if you want it to work that way.
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so with the kx can i have the dial control aperture by default and then control iso with a button held down and have the shutter speed automatiic?

and do you have to HOLD the button down or can it be set to work like a toggle switch?

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so with the kx can i have the dial control aperture by default and then control iso with a button held down and have the shutter speed automatiic?
Not in a way I can figure out.

I may have missed an option buried in the menus or the manual though.

Otherwise just set the ISO beforehand to an acceptable range and then use P or Av mode.
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I wouldn't trade in the top LCD screen. The problem I have with the back LCD is that it is very bright and hence quite disturbing when photographing in low light or at night. The top LCD on the other hand, when illuminated, is much dimmer.

I have turned the back LCD off on my K-7 for this very reason.

With that said, I find it quite challenging to switch back and forth betweem my K10D and the K-7 due to the different placement of the EV and green buttons. I seem to stop dead in my tracks whenever I want to change the EV compensation until I figure out what camera I'm holding. When I had the K10D paired with the K20D, it was econd nature to adjust the EV! I may end up buying a second K-7 as backup for my K-7 (!), and retire the K10D.
I'm with you Ole.The top LCD has the same illumance as a digital wrist watch light.It's such a more convenient screen to have.For me,this is the main turnoff on buying the K-x,the fact that it doesn't have the LCD screenIt might have been a decision from Pentax to keep the cost down on the K-x??????
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I really like having the screen on the top. Not to mention it uses less power than the rear LCD when you are changing some of the settings, etc...
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It might have been a decision from Pentax to keep the cost down on the K-x??????
Most certainly. Also to make it smaller and more 1 handed (mode dial on right)

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Actually it is all about getting used to the new camera.
Like any new gear, one has to spend some time to get accustomed to the controls. Moving from the K20D to the K-7 in my case, I have found the rear LCD readout increasingly more useful than the top LED display. This is because as I bring the eye away from the camera's viewfinder, it is a little easier to see the LCD screen especially because exposure display is bigger. Great for bifocal users like me. And with fine manual focusing with LV being pretty accurate, it doesn't take long not to like the rear LCD screen. For me at least.
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