Originally posted by JackBak Andy, what ISO did you shoot with? I've always kept it between 100 and 400 on my K10 as I wanted to limit any amp noise. Speaking of which can you show us the amp noise inherent in the K-x?
The Pleiades was shot at ISO 1600. This seems to be optimal for the conditions at F4. With a little darker sky 3200 might be good also. I'll post some dark frames later to compare the different ISO's.
Originally posted by JackBak Ah yes the days of the Lumicon hypering chamber, nitrogen gas piped into the back of my LX camera, hand guiding for hours in the cold only to discover you didn't quite nail the focus. Or saying to yourself, Gee I'd love to shoot the Bubble Nebula it's high in the North should be a snap. Then after setting it all up, dialing in the Dec and RA on your mount's verniers you then discovering you can't see the bloody thing. No problem, you say to your self take the damn shot and pull it out of the negative's murk. Doing all that then discovering you only caught the edge of the Bubble in the far corner of your shots. Yes, fun times indeed.
Wow, you are a die hard astro guy. My film work fell just short of hypering. I was ready to go that route but just didn't have the time to add yet one more process to a hobby that was already over budjet.
I can sympathise with everything you are saying. I think any of us that have spent hours under the dark sky have felt the agoney of seeing a simple mistake after getting the film developed that have ruined hours of expousre time.
I once took a trip out to Arizona and spent 3 days camping in the desert braving the dry dust and heat just to get some dark night sky. After I got back to St. Louis and picked up my 6x7 film I saw that the lab had cut most of the roll through the pictures. I was furious and asked how they could be so careless. The lady said there was nothing on the negs so they just hacked them up and said I left the lens cap on. After explaining everything I went through to get these shots they said they'd give me a credit for my next film processing but couldn't refund my money. Needless to say I "lost it" but didn't help any though.
Originally posted by JackBak Oh yeah one other question and maybe I've read this already but just forgot. Why did you shoot JPEG instead of RAW. If I'm going to go to all the trouble of astrophotography I always want as much data as I can capture.
Anyway you nailed those two, want to try the Bubble?
Best regards,
I shoot everything in RAW+ but didn't processes these with the RAWs because I didn't have the time to convert and Registax is extremely slow with TIFF files. If these were taken under better conditions I may have taken the extra effort.
I have found that there really is not much of a perceptable difference between RAW and JPEG anyway when stacking a lot of photos because there is so little data in each frame and the noise and light pollution is so dominate that JPEG artifact is very low on the list.
I've never tried the Bubble Nebula but I do like a challenge. Heck, I don't even know where it is. I hope there are some brighter stars around it to help find and register it. I don't have this fancy "goto" stuff so I have to do everything the hard way. Not sure the sky conditions here would reveal it anyway. Judging on what you are seeing in the Pleiades photo do you think it would pull through?
-Andy