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BB_Zone28 · 11-06-2009, 05:56 PM

Advanced uses can spot the deficiencies and choose based on overall capabilities and features, which make the K-x stand out.
However, these are more entry level cameras and the less informed point & shooter that wants to buy their 1st DSLR will probably hear a lot of hyped sales "smoke and mirrors" that says CaNikon because CaNikon is CaNikon is CaNikon...and they will bite the bait and get reeled in by the name alone.

rawr · 11-06-2009, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by BB_Zone28

...However, these are more entry level cameras and the less informed point & shooter that wants to buy their 1st DSLR will probably hear a lot of hyped sales "smoke and mirrors" that says CaNikon because CaNikon is CaNikon is CaNikon...and they will bite the bait and get reeled in by the name alone.

It's interesting that the K-x does seem to be pulling a few people away from Canon-Nikon, at least the the entry level. A couple of forum users here have jumped ship (from a D40 and a 40D) to a K-x, I notice. This is not just to do with the attractive K-x price to either I suspect, but all about the word speading virally that it has great IQ and does high ISO really well, as well as HD video.

The great IQ and high-ISO performance of the K-x, btw, you won't hear about in any Pentax K-x promotional material that I've seen. It's certainly been a feature of the reviews to date, and the forum chatter, so maybe that's how the word is getting out to Canikon users and others.

er1kksen · 11-06-2009, 07:06 PM

rawr, I'm assuming you're referring to me switching from the 40D? In the interest of fairness, I feel I should clarify that the sale of the 40D was planned from the moment I bought it a couple months ago: I bought it for a specific purpose that was best served by a specific lens for which the 40D was the most affordable body that met my standards.

I was planning on purchasing an Olympus E-P1 to replace the 40D (the idea is a small, portable camera for a backpacking-style month in South America) but decided on the K-x instead after checking out the sample images and the price (brand new, at that! I never buy new). So it may be more accurate to say that I switched from the E-P1 than from the 40D, since the 40D was on its way out no matter what.

The K-x simply allowed me to shorten my inevitable path back to Pentax.

rawr · 11-06-2009, 07:45 PM

Fairness! Begone with your fairness. Fairness and balance are the last things we need in pentaxforums. You've clearly got a lot of learning to do.

But yeah, thanks for the correction.

er1kksen · 11-06-2009, 07:52 PM

Either way, I'm currently at a movie night with friends and I'm snapping away at my friend's antics at ISO 128000, 2mp jpeg setting and... it looks great. Reminds me of the 40D ISO 1600 (jpeg). I'm quite sure I could get some good 4x6 prints from these.

Raybo · 11-06-2009, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by er1kksen

Either way, I'm currently at a movie night with friends and I'm snapping away at my friend's antics at ISO 128000, 2mp jpeg setting and... it looks great. Reminds me of the 40D ISO 1600 (jpeg). I'm quite sure I could get some good 4x6 prints from these.

ISO128000?
Do you mean the lowly KX can beat the D3x? I gots to get me one of these!

er1kksen · 11-06-2009, 08:45 PM

Probably not that good, but... sample

Keep in mind, that's low tungsten lighting, at the 2mp setting. Would use higher res but I'm stuck with a 16mb SD card until tomorrow.

Edit: borrowed a card out of a friend's camera. Full res: sample

RAW conversion coming up. UPDATE: Never mind, since my current workflow is 1)take pictures 2)put the card back in the friend's camera 3) use the friend's camera and cord to transfer to the computer, since my cord is at home. Problem is that the RAW files I shoot don't seem to show up when I connect the friend's camera to the computer. RAW files will have to wait, for me at least.

Last edited by er1kksen; 11-06-2009 at 09:03 PM.

rawr · 11-06-2009, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Raybo

ISO128000?
Do you mean the lowly KX can beat the D3x? I gots to get me one of these!

K-x 12800 does well enough. We don't need no stinking 128000:

From page 5 of this thread:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/77254-new-k-x-owne...le-images.html

pxpaulx · 11-06-2009, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by er1kksen

Probably not that good, but... sample

Keep in mind, that's low tungsten lighting, at the 2mp setting. Would use higher res but I'm stuck with a 16mb SD card until tomorrow.

MB?! Hehe, I'm kidding! But, that card has got to be close to its 10th birthday - were you throwing it a party?

Raybo · 11-06-2009, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by er1kksen

Probably not that good, but... sample

Keep in mind, that's low tungsten lighting, at the 2mp setting. Would use higher res but I'm stuck with a 16mb SD card until tomorrow.

16mb?

Didn't they stop making these in the early 1900's?

Raybo · 11-06-2009, 08:55 PM

I'm just kidding............those are some impressive high ISO images!

Raybo · 11-06-2009, 08:58 PM

rawr,

That ISO 6400 chicken shot is very nice!

er1kksen · 11-06-2009, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by pxpaulx

MB?! Hehe, I'm kidding! But, that card has got to be close to its 10th birthday - were you throwing it a party?

Haha no, it was more of a David-Bowie-movie-watching-party. It probably is about 5 years old, it most likely came as one of those freebie cards they included with compact digitals for a while. I dug it out due to the fact that all my cards are CF (a la 40D).

Originally posted by Raybo

16mb?

Didn't they stop making these in the early 1900's?

You bet. This here is what they refer to as "New Old Stock."

er1kksen · 11-06-2009, 09:10 PM

And yes, I meant 12800, not 128000.

You know how a few drinks shrink some things and exxagerate others... and make you incapable of spelling exxagerate... I'll figure it out tomorrow.

rawr · 11-06-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Raybo

rawr,

That ISO 6400 chicken shot is very nice!

Thanks. It really was very dim in there. The K-x let me do things my K200D simply could not, especially with a slow kit lens. I mean, f7, handheld, indoors under crappy ambient light and still get a decent exposure, let alone a decent noise-free shot like that one?

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11-06-2009, 05:56 PM	#16
BB_Zone28 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Broomfield, Colorado Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 152	Advanced uses can spot the deficiencies and choose based on overall capabilities and features, which make the K-x stand out. However, these are more entry level cameras and the less informed point & shooter that wants to buy their 1st DSLR will probably hear a lot of hyped sales "smoke and mirrors" that says CaNikon because CaNikon is CaNikon is CaNikon...and they will bite the bait and get reeled in by the name alone.

11-06-2009, 06:13 PM	#17
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by BB_Zone28 ...However, these are more entry level cameras and the less informed point & shooter that wants to buy their 1st DSLR will probably hear a lot of hyped sales "smoke and mirrors" that says CaNikon because CaNikon is CaNikon is CaNikon...and they will bite the bait and get reeled in by the name alone. It's interesting that the K-x does seem to be pulling a few people away from Canon-Nikon, at least the the entry level. A couple of forum users here have jumped ship (from a D40 and a 40D) to a K-x, I notice. This is not just to do with the attractive K-x price to either I suspect, but all about the word speading virally that it has great IQ and does high ISO really well, as well as HD video. The great IQ and high-ISO performance of the K-x, btw, you won't hear about in any Pentax K-x promotional material that I've seen. It's certainly been a feature of the reviews to date, and the forum chatter, so maybe that's how the word is getting out to Canikon users and others.

11-06-2009, 07:06 PM	#18
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	rawr, I'm assuming you're referring to me switching from the 40D? In the interest of fairness, I feel I should clarify that the sale of the 40D was planned from the moment I bought it a couple months ago: I bought it for a specific purpose that was best served by a specific lens for which the 40D was the most affordable body that met my standards. I was planning on purchasing an Olympus E-P1 to replace the 40D (the idea is a small, portable camera for a backpacking-style month in South America) but decided on the K-x instead after checking out the sample images and the price (brand new, at that! I never buy new). So it may be more accurate to say that I switched from the E-P1 than from the 40D, since the 40D was on its way out no matter what. The K-x simply allowed me to shorten my inevitable path back to Pentax.

11-06-2009, 07:45 PM	#19
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Fairness! Begone with your fairness. Fairness and balance are the last things we need in pentaxforums. You've clearly got a lot of learning to do. But yeah, thanks for the correction.

11-06-2009, 07:52 PM	#20
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Either way, I'm currently at a movie night with friends and I'm snapping away at my friend's antics at ISO 128000, 2mp jpeg setting and... it looks great. Reminds me of the 40D ISO 1600 (jpeg). I'm quite sure I could get some good 4x6 prints from these.

11-06-2009, 08:36 PM	#21
Raybo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 872	Originally posted by er1kksen Either way, I'm currently at a movie night with friends and I'm snapping away at my friend's antics at ISO 128000, 2mp jpeg setting and... it looks great. Reminds me of the 40D ISO 1600 (jpeg). I'm quite sure I could get some good 4x6 prints from these. ISO128000? Do you mean the lowly KX can beat the D3x? I gots to get me one of these!

11-06-2009, 08:45 PM	#22
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Probably not that good, but... sample Keep in mind, that's low tungsten lighting, at the 2mp setting. Would use higher res but I'm stuck with a 16mb SD card until tomorrow. Edit: borrowed a card out of a friend's camera. Full res: sample RAW conversion coming up. UPDATE: Never mind, since my current workflow is 1)take pictures 2)put the card back in the friend's camera 3) use the friend's camera and cord to transfer to the computer, since my cord is at home. Problem is that the RAW files I shoot don't seem to show up when I connect the friend's camera to the computer. RAW files will have to wait, for me at least. Last edited by er1kksen; 11-06-2009 at 09:03 PM.

11-06-2009, 08:46 PM	#23
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Raybo ISO128000? Do you mean the lowly KX can beat the D3x? I gots to get me one of these! K-x 12800 does well enough. We don't need no stinking 128000: From page 5 of this thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/77254-new-k-x-owne...le-images.html

11-06-2009, 08:53 PM	#24
pxpaulx Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 2,867	Originally posted by er1kksen Probably not that good, but... sample Keep in mind, that's low tungsten lighting, at the 2mp setting. Would use higher res but I'm stuck with a 16mb SD card until tomorrow. MB?! Hehe, I'm kidding! But, that card has got to be close to its 10th birthday - were you throwing it a party?

11-06-2009, 08:53 PM	#25
Raybo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 872	Originally posted by er1kksen Probably not that good, but... sample Keep in mind, that's low tungsten lighting, at the 2mp setting. Would use higher res but I'm stuck with a 16mb SD card until tomorrow. 16mb? Didn't they stop making these in the early 1900's?

11-06-2009, 08:55 PM	#26
Raybo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 872	I'm just kidding............those are some impressive high ISO images!

11-06-2009, 08:58 PM	#27
Raybo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 872	rawr, That ISO 6400 chicken shot is very nice!

11-06-2009, 09:08 PM	#28
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Originally posted by pxpaulx MB?! Hehe, I'm kidding! But, that card has got to be close to its 10th birthday - were you throwing it a party? Haha no, it was more of a David-Bowie-movie-watching-party. It probably is about 5 years old, it most likely came as one of those freebie cards they included with compact digitals for a while. I dug it out due to the fact that all my cards are CF (a la 40D). Originally posted by Raybo 16mb? Didn't they stop making these in the early 1900's? You bet. This here is what they refer to as "New Old Stock."

11-06-2009, 09:10 PM	#29
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	And yes, I meant 12800, not 128000. You know how a few drinks shrink some things and exxagerate others... and make you incapable of spelling exxagerate... I'll figure it out tomorrow.

11-06-2009, 09:11 PM	#30
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Raybo rawr, That ISO 6400 chicken shot is very nice! Thanks. It really was very dim in there. The K-x let me do things my K200D simply could not, especially with a slow kit lens. I mean, f7, handheld, indoors under crappy ambient light and still get a decent exposure, let alone a decent noise-free shot like that one?

K-x vs T1i (500D) vs D5000 ?

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