[Mystic]

hi, would you please show us your K-7 shots, either processed or not, but please do not show something that's possible only with expensive software or extremely good skills of removing noise. Show just usual everyday shots,

I use lightroom 2 corel paintshop pro X2 so other than that, noise removing techniques are not known to me.

as far as I see now, K-7 is a bit worse in IQ than k20d up to 1250 and a bit better than k20d above that... am I right?

I currently own k20d and would really want to have all the features from k-7 so, i'm contemplating, whether to go for it or not, whether pictures from ISO 1250 will be better than K20d or should I wait for K7x or something..
I would go for kx but, I need more proffesional body +weatherseals..

[Mystic]

anyone? (the message is too short..)

[netuser]

People are not getting very good images above iso 800 with k7 .....

I disagree from you. K7 is better then k20 until iso 800. At iso 800 and after k7 is worse then k20d....

[Mystic]

People are not getting very good images above iso 800 with k7 .....

I disagree from you. K7 is better then k20 until iso 800. At iso 800 and after k7 is worse then k20d....

well numerous tests show otherwise.. do you own k7? on what experience are you talking?

thanks.

[LeDave]

Edit: Nvm you said no software =/

[FullertonImages]

well numerous tests show otherwise.. do you own k7? on what experience are you talking?

thanks.

Where are they? I've compared plenty of files, and they all shows that K20d is beter than K-7 above iso800 in RAW format. also, the DPReview test showed the same thing.

[netuser]

Yes, I do own k-7 and sold a k20d to buy it.....
(also have k200d)

[jgredline]

I agree that the K-7 images to ISO640 are better, but after that the K20D produces better images IMO.

[Daemos]

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/78098-k7-vs-kx-pic...available.html

[knoxploration]

People are not getting very good images above iso 800 with k7 .....

That seems rather a blanket statement, and one I'd strongly disagree with. I've gotten plenty of photos I'm very happy with, at well above ISO 800. I'm sure many other K-7 owners have, as well.

[netuser]

That seems rather a blanket statement, and one I'd strongly disagree with. I've gotten plenty of photos I'm very happy with, at well above ISO 800. I'm sure many other K-7 owners have, as well.

Originally Posted by netuser
People are not getting very good images above iso 800 with k7 .....

I disagree from you. K7 is better then k20 until iso 800. At iso 800 and after k7 is worse then k20d....

On this forum, for instance, many people are not happy with high iso results from k7.
And also tests against k20 suport the statement.

Of course every person is a person ....

[Mystic]

Where are they? I've compared plenty of files, and they all shows that K20d is beter than K-7 above iso800 in RAW format. also, the DPReview test showed the same thing.

well i've tried to find the one I remember, but I couldn't as i remember it was shown recently by some website, which reviewed K7 there were comparison charts between k7 and k20 and they showed that k7... here you go, i've found it..

http://http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-in-german-magazine-test.html

i do not know whether to believe it or not..

[Mystic]

That seems rather a blanket statement, and one I'd strongly disagree with. I've gotten plenty of photos I'm very happy with, at well above ISO 800. I'm sure many other K-7 owners have, as well.

then show us, and let the pictures talk for themselves.

[Mystic]

Edit: Nvm you said no software =/

well, I did not say - no software.. I said no extraordinary skills in removing noise..

lightroom, CS3,CS4 corel psp X2 is ok..

[Mystic]

it's hard to believe, how a picture can be better than K20d in low ISOs..

another thing i've noticed, that in pentax world such things as Dynamic range expanders such 200 dynamic range on k20d or shadow compensation on k-m make things only worse..

so I believe the same is with k-7.

one just needs to turn off all DR expanders such as shadow or highlight compensations, and widen the DR via ACR or lightroom by boosting shadows, otherwise things get more noisy, and less pleasant to watch..

but that's only my subjective opinion..

so, will anyone show some high ISO k-7 images? slightly postprocessed as you usually do..

thanks daemos for your input, but these photos were not everyday shooting photos, these were from series of so called measurations.. i'm interested in pictures taken during photo shoots indoor or outdoor..