K-7 HDR really works!

chrisdm · 12-18-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by ivoire

I've been using the hdr feature for real estate pics also. It cut my post processing times by 2/3. In the link below, 80% of the interior images were done using the hdr feature.

http://3difocus.com/slideshows/312-E-Ninth/

Some great photos there, thanks for sharing. Were most of these done for a flooring company?

ivoire · 12-18-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by chrisdm

Some great photos there, thanks for sharing. Were most of these done for a flooring company?

Thanks Chris. I checked out you photos.... beautiful work. The shots were for a local home sale. The guy i contract for at 3DI Focus has his own requirements for style, color, lighting, framing, etc so I tone everything down and shoot more floor than ceiling. Keeps him and his customers happy and puts money in my pocket. I sent him the link to your site... he enjoyed your work.

mtroute · 12-18-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by ivoire

I've been using the hdr feature for real estate pics also. It cut my post processing times by 2/3. In the link below, 80% of the interior images were done using the hdr feature.

http://3difocus.com/slideshows/312-E-Ninth/

PM'd you regarding your site.

kittykat46 · 12-18-2009, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by eigelb

great exampels that shows the k-7´s small dynamik range

Small dynamic range ?

Have you ever used the K-7 ?

A bit less than some of the competition maybe, not "small"

mike3legs · 12-19-2009, 05:15 AM

This is my one and only attempt at the in camera HDR on the K7 so far.

St Gile's Church Wrexham, Wales

woof · 12-19-2009, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by chrisdm

Well, the lens I use most for interiors is the Canon 17-40L on my 5D Mark II.. Last night was my first real estate gig with my new K-7, and yes the 12-24 also. It is really the only choice as the distortion correction only works with Pentax lenses.

FWIW, PTLense (PTLens) is worth a try for distortion correction beyond Pentax lenses. It has a decent list of presets mapped into WA lenses mapped into the Pentax line - eg: Sigma 10-20mm 4-5.6. I imagine he will continue to expand this list, and you can also engage in manual correction all you like.

I would of course prefer in-camera correction for Pentax lenses, but for those who have WA other than Pentax... have a look.

woof

Daemos · 12-20-2009, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by chrisdm

I think it was sarcasm. With its HDR feature the K-7 beats the nearest competitor in terms of dynamic range by at least 6 stops. Dpreview measured 17EV of dynamic range!! That would be a world record for a DSLR if Guiness tallies such things...

What setting of HDR did you use? Just Normal?

Daemos · 12-20-2009, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by kittykat46

Small dynamic range ?

Have you ever used the K-7 ?

A bit less than some of the competition maybe, not "small"

The K7 has actually average DR with competition, it can go deeper into shadows keeping details, but not so much with bright lights and highlights.

I tend to do negative exposure in camera and bring it back up in PP.

WerTicus · 12-20-2009, 01:51 AM

some of these in camera hdr's look in desperate need of some contrast to my eye.

chrisdm · 12-20-2009, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by Daemos

What setting of HDR did you use? Just Normal?

I have discovered this using the K-7 now for one real estate job and 1 pre-dawn landscape hike that sometimes "normal" mode works best and sometimes "strong" mode works best. Strong generall works better if there is a real extreme range, like in the real estate examples I posted above. But if there isn't this extreme range to begin with, then the strong mode appears washed out, lacking contrast. It does punch up in post well though...

Here's one from that landscape outing, another one with extreme range. This really shows the capabilities of this remarkable camera, as it was actually nearly dark outside, as evidenced by the city lights you can see below. But the camera exposed evertthing from the sky beginning to be filled with sunlight to the dark, dark foreground. Once again just remarkable:

Chris Miller
Imagine Imagery, Photography by Chris Miller

tommen · 12-20-2009, 06:34 AM

Do you have to be shooting jpg's for the HDR to work? Will it work in Raw?

eigelb · 12-20-2009, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by tommen

Do you have to be shooting jpg's for the HDR to work? Will it work in Raw?

jpg only...

**mrpackerguy** · 12-20-2009, 10:12 AM

Thanks for your post. You turned me on to HDR in my K200d. Very neat.

WerTicus · 12-20-2009, 10:48 AM

I still think these HDR's out of the camera are looking washed out, flat and generally off.

You could do far more with a set of bracketed RAWs.

Just a little work on the jpg the camera spits out:

chrisdm · 12-20-2009, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by WerTicus

I still think these HDR's out of the camera are looking washed out, flat and generally off.

You could do far more with a set of bracketed RAWs.

Just a little work on the jpg the camera spits out:

You may need to look into monitor calibration, you've clipped the blacks pretty heavily on the cactus and the rock in the center.

12-18-2009, 05:54 PM	#32
ivoire Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,381	Originally posted by chrisdm Some great photos there, thanks for sharing. Were most of these done for a flooring company? Thanks Chris. I checked out you photos.... beautiful work. The shots were for a local home sale. The guy i contract for at 3DI Focus has his own requirements for style, color, lighting, framing, etc so I tone everything down and shoot more floor than ceiling. Keeps him and his customers happy and puts money in my pocket. I sent him the link to your site... he enjoyed your work. Last edited by ivoire; 12-18-2009 at 07:09 PM.

12-20-2009, 06:34 AM	#41
tommen Inactive Account Join Date: May 2007 Location: Georgetown, TX Posts: 26	HDR in Raw Do you have to be shooting jpg's for the HDR to work? Will it work in Raw?

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12-18-2009, 05:15 PM	#31
chrisdm New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 21 Original Poster	Originally posted by ivoire I've been using the hdr feature for real estate pics also. It cut my post processing times by 2/3. In the link below, 80% of the interior images were done using the hdr feature. http://3difocus.com/slideshows/312-E-Ninth/ Some great photos there, thanks for sharing. Were most of these done for a flooring company?

12-18-2009, 06:30 PM	#33
mtroute Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 533	Originally posted by ivoire I've been using the hdr feature for real estate pics also. It cut my post processing times by 2/3. In the link below, 80% of the interior images were done using the hdr feature. http://3difocus.com/slideshows/312-E-Ninth/ PM'd you regarding your site.

12-18-2009, 08:03 PM	#34
kittykat46 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 923	Originally posted by eigelb great exampels that shows the k-7´s small dynamik range Small dynamic range ? Have you ever used the K-7 ? A bit less than some of the competition maybe, not "small"

12-19-2009, 05:15 AM	#35
mike3legs Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rhyl - North Wales Photos: Gallery Posts: 33	This is my one and only attempt at the in camera HDR on the K7 so far. St Gile's Church Wrexham, Wales

12-19-2009, 07:27 AM	#36
woof Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the present Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,870	Originally posted by chrisdm Well, the lens I use most for interiors is the Canon 17-40L on my 5D Mark II.. Last night was my first real estate gig with my new K-7, and yes the 12-24 also. It is really the only choice as the distortion correction only works with Pentax lenses. FWIW, PTLense (PTLens) is worth a try for distortion correction beyond Pentax lenses. It has a decent list of presets mapped into WA lenses mapped into the Pentax line - eg: Sigma 10-20mm 4-5.6. I imagine he will continue to expand this list, and you can also engage in manual correction all you like. I would of course prefer in-camera correction for Pentax lenses, but for those who have WA other than Pentax... have a look. woof

12-20-2009, 12:40 AM	#37
Daemos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 106	Originally posted by chrisdm I think it was sarcasm. With its HDR feature the K-7 beats the nearest competitor in terms of dynamic range by at least 6 stops. Dpreview measured 17EV of dynamic range!! That would be a world record for a DSLR if Guiness tallies such things... What setting of HDR did you use? Just Normal?

12-20-2009, 12:41 AM	#38
Daemos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 106	Originally posted by kittykat46 Small dynamic range ? Have you ever used the K-7 ? A bit less than some of the competition maybe, not "small" The K7 has actually average DR with competition, it can go deeper into shadows keeping details, but not so much with bright lights and highlights. I tend to do negative exposure in camera and bring it back up in PP.

12-20-2009, 01:51 AM	#39
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	some of these in camera hdr's look in desperate need of some contrast to my eye.

12-20-2009, 06:10 AM	#40
chrisdm New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 21 Original Poster	Originally posted by Daemos What setting of HDR did you use? Just Normal? I have discovered this using the K-7 now for one real estate job and 1 pre-dawn landscape hike that sometimes "normal" mode works best and sometimes "strong" mode works best. Strong generall works better if there is a real extreme range, like in the real estate examples I posted above. But if there isn't this extreme range to begin with, then the strong mode appears washed out, lacking contrast. It does punch up in post well though... Here's one from that landscape outing, another one with extreme range. This really shows the capabilities of this remarkable camera, as it was actually nearly dark outside, as evidenced by the city lights you can see below. But the camera exposed evertthing from the sky beginning to be filled with sunlight to the dark, dark foreground. Once again just remarkable: Chris Miller Imagine Imagery, Photography by Chris Miller

12-20-2009, 06:55 AM	#42
eigelb Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 174	Originally posted by tommen Do you have to be shooting jpg's for the HDR to work? Will it work in Raw? jpg only...

12-20-2009, 10:12 AM	#43
mrpackerguy Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison (Verona), WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 168	Thanks for your post. You turned me on to HDR in my K200d. Very neat.

12-20-2009, 10:48 AM	#44
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	I still think these HDR's out of the camera are looking washed out, flat and generally off. You could do far more with a set of bracketed RAWs. Just a little work on the jpg the camera spits out:

12-20-2009, 03:11 PM	#45
chrisdm New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 21 Original Poster	Originally posted by WerTicus I still think these HDR's out of the camera are looking washed out, flat and generally off. You could do far more with a set of bracketed RAWs. Just a little work on the jpg the camera spits out: You may need to look into monitor calibration, you've clipped the blacks pretty heavily on the cactus and the rock in the center.