Originally posted by Lowell Goudge no actually, by settings i also include exposure and color balance, I think it is you that missed the point, the biggest proponents of RAW all talk about saving shots, I prefer to do that in advance.
A bad shot, regardless of format will always be a bad shot. most of the minor tweaks are just as good in 8 bit as 12 bit, it's the major ones that need better resolution and those are the ones that you should avoid by getting right in the first place
Not a word of that is true. The biggest poronents of RAW will tell you that if you're going to edit even one lousy image, shoot RAW, it is far easier to work in one format than two if you know what you're doing. THis idea that RAW is more work is not true once you know how to use it. Unless you are printing directly from the camera because you're a complete newb or you have a job such as a sports journo or local sports team shooter where you're handing out images on site ..... shoot RAW. It's actually easier than shooting jpg.
There is no need to hand edit every image, just load up the files on your PC (as you do with JPG) and if you have something like LR ... BANG, it renders them based on your pre-sets that you have in your camera. Press EXPORT and wham, you have the JPG's.
It's two mouse clicks. Why would I not keep as much data as possible for two mouse clicks? I have done a few 20*16 prints and having a RAW file is near priceless.
WHat about re-sizing? You just press EXPORT to re-size for web use and EXPORT (setting B) for prints or whatever other use you have.
As for "getting it right in the first place", I mean really, how good is your sensor? I don't know what you're shooting with but be damned if my sensor can capture the dynamic range I need.
You and your JPG shooting mates are also suggesting that every image you shoot ... every one, is just right with EXACTLY the same amount of sharpening, contrast and saturation, not to mention the exact same exposure for each colour channel.
That is remarkable.
Here is an example, the image itself was always meant as a family snap shot rather than an example of photography at it's finest so ignore the subject matter. It's mid afternoon, bright sunlight, I cannot shoot in another direction as I want that wide shot, I am in Chicago and likely never coming back so I need to shoot now. I have two choices here, expose for the trees or expose for the sky, i sort of tried to do the best I could between the two.
In post I pulled in the exposure on individual channels, so yellow/orange for the ground and blue for the sky. The trees (greens) I brightened a little.
How exactly does one do that in the field? Circular polariser maybe? I'm still going to have the trees versus sky issue regardless.