Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
01-11-2010, 10:24 PM   #1
Veteran Member
Reportage's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 739
Anyone explained why Kx doesnt have visible focus points grid in viewfinder?

been waiting for a very good explanation.



01-11-2010, 10:27 PM   #2
Veteran Member
Eruditass's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,206
Because it shared it from the K-m.

Next question?

(K-m does not have visible focus points because it kept the body size down, cost less, used as a price-level differential, and perhaps was deemed less important than some of the other features included, imo thankfully, as I have found only one or 2 minor benefits to visible focus points)
01-11-2010, 10:34 PM   #3
Veteran Member
Reportage's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 739
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by Eruditass Quote
Because it shared it from the K-m.

Next question?

(K-m does not have visible focus points because it kept the body size down, cost less, used as a price-level differential, and perhaps was deemed less important than some of the other features included, imo thankfully, as I have found only one or 2 minor benefits to visible focus points)
I am surprised the focus points would take up so much space. never played with the K-M so thanks for the explanation. Gonna do some reading on this..hmm.
01-11-2010, 10:47 PM   #4
Senior Member
sajah's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Korea
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 275
QuoteOriginally posted by Reportage Quote
I am surprised the focus points would take up so much space. never played with the K-M so thanks for the explanation. Gonna do some reading on this..hmm.
Just to add a little more, from K-x review of DPReview.com :
"Pentax' official reason for the omission of this feature is size. The camera's prism would have to be larger with visible AF-points"

01-11-2010, 11:15 PM   #5
Pentaxian




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Perth Australia
Photos: Albums
Posts: 1,511
cause you don't need them?
because it saved $5 cost?

spend 5 mins with the camera and notice how you don't miss them at all.
Its obvious to see what is in focus.
Also most people just use center point focus.
01-12-2010, 03:18 AM   #6
Veteran Member
Reportage's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 739
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by sajah Quote
Just to add a little more, from K-x review of DPReview.com :
"Pentax' official reason for the omission of this feature is size. The camera's prism would have to be larger with visible AF-points"
my guess is that they dont want to show which points are better so the emphasis on aim centre as usually for entry level, centre has the best focus point.

well, i am guessing the Kx at LEAST has the rule of thirds Grid view for composition. does it?
01-12-2010, 05:01 AM   #7
Pentaxian
Wheatfield's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The wheatfields of Canada
Posts: 10,156
It keeps cost down in a very price sensitive market, and it gives feature delineation with the K7.
01-12-2010, 06:49 AM   #8
Site Supporter




Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: midwest, United States
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,323
I prefer not having them vs the way Olympus does theirs. In the Oly there are dark black squares on the focusing screen. They are annoying and in the way.

thanks
barondla


Check out POINT & SHOOT CONTEST #26 WINNERS in compact camera forum. Enter #27. Any brand camera. Enter now!

01-13-2010, 12:02 AM   #9
Pentaxian
Marc Sabatella's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 10,686
QuoteOriginally posted by Reportage Quote
well, i am guessing the Kx at LEAST has the rule of thirds Grid view for composition. does it?
The focus screen looks just the picture posted above, but of course without the red dots. The brackets are more less consistent with the so-called rule of thirds,, which is actually just kind of rough guide for getting compositions consistent with the "golden ratio".
01-13-2010, 07:20 AM   #10
Inactive Account




Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ames, Iowa, USA
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,965
Another reason might be that they got sick of people thinking the red dots mean focus has been achieved (although I'd go with the cost/size explanation first.)
01-13-2010, 07:30 AM   #11
Veteran Member
DanLoc78's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Philadelphia
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 915
i was just about to start a thread with almost the exact same title. are you still able to select autofocus points? i'm so confused...how would autofocus work without visible points? i think it would drive me insane.
01-13-2010, 12:02 PM   #12
Senior Member




Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Colorado
Posts: 127
I believe the LCD on the back indicates which points were focused on:

01-13-2010, 12:44 PM   #13
Pentaxian
Marc Sabatella's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 10,686
QuoteOriginally posted by DanLoc78 Quote
i was just about to start a thread with almost the exact same title. are you still able to select autofocus points? i'm so confused...how would autofocus work without visible points? i think it would drive me insane.
Not sure if you're being facetious or not - I'd have thought you'd been around long enough to have seen an of the zillions of other long threads on this topic. But for the record, yes, you can still select focus points, using the LCD. So for the minority who depend on selecting focus points, it's still possible, just a bit more awkward, and if you're one of the few for whom that would make a difference, then that would be reason to spend more on a higher end camera. For the majority who either use center point only or who let the camera choose for them (and thus feedback on which was chosen doesn't help in the least, as there is no way to make use of that feedback), it's a non-issue.
01-13-2010, 01:53 PM   #14
Senior Member




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Québec
Posts: 117
i'd like to have a way to see what point is selected when I review pictures that were took with Auto5 or Auto 11.
At least in LV, you can see in real time what focus point was chose by the auto focus when you use phase detect.
01-13-2010, 02:02 PM   #15
Veteran Member
RuiC's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lisboa - The Grocery
Posts: 616
Anyone explained why Kx doesnt have visible focus points grid in viewfinder?

QuoteOriginally posted by Reportage Quote
been waiting for a very good explanation.

It is my understanding that to do that you would need a PentaPrism and the K-x only has PentaMirror due to cost, size and weight issues.
I may be wrong on that, of course.

Rui
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
camera, dslr, photography
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
K-7 Focus Points jolinjo Pentax DSLR Discussion 3 11-11-2009 01:41 PM
Focus trap with non center focus points? RichyX Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 4 11-07-2009 09:48 PM
K-7 Viewfinder explained illdefined Pentax News and Rumors 28 05-20-2009 11:22 AM
Pentax Grid Focus Screen Gadget_Guy Pentax Camera and Field Accessories 1 04-06-2008 01:37 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:02 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top