No RAW in Green mode for K-7?

BBear · 02-21-2010, 12:21 PM

I am somehow confused about the issue here...

Why cant one just pass the camera under "P" mode again?

braver · 02-21-2010, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

That's what the "P" setting is for.
The green setting isn't screwed up, you just don't understand the purpose of it and want it to be something that it isn't.

If you read carefully the thread above, you see that someone makes a point of handing it off to friends in the Green mode. Thus my argument shows it doesn't work for RAW shoots of self. I do understand the Green mode; it did shoot RAW on the K10D, didn't it now? I just checked -- RAW works fine on my K10D and always did. Hence the behavior of the Green mode changed, without explanation, for K7.

inferno10 · 02-21-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by braver

If you read carefully the thread above, you see that someone makes a point of handing it off to friends in the Green mode. Thus my argument shows it doesn't work for RAW shoots of self. I do understand the Green mode; it did shoot RAW on the K10D, didn't it now? I just checked -- RAW works fine on my K10D and always did. Hence the behavior of the Green mode changed, without explanation, for K7.

Please explain why you can't just use P mode for this?

- Jason

Wheatfield · 02-21-2010, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by braver

If you read carefully the thread above, you see that someone makes a point of handing it off to friends in the Green mode. Thus my argument shows it doesn't work for RAW shoots of self. I do understand the Green mode; it did shoot RAW on the K10D, didn't it now? I just checked -- RAW works fine on my K10D and always did. Hence the behavior of the Green mode changed, without explanation, for K7.

I guess the obvious question is why is an explanation needed?

What Pentax has done is fixed the green mode to ensure that users of it can't screw anything up.

If you want to hand your camera off and have raw files, put it in P mode.
This isn't rocket science.

Tang is Rocket Science.
I understand that Post-It notes are rocket science.
Apparently WD-40 is rocket science.

Marc Sabatella · 02-22-2010, 11:45 AM

I'd guess that some users complained that Green mode *didn't* revert to JPEG. Like I said, you can't please everyone.

You can of course use "P" mode as the wuick hand-it-off-to-someone else mode. It won't reset ISO to auto for you (although you can do that yourself), and might leave some other settings in non-Green state, but presumably you have them in a useful state already.

**kmccanta** · 03-10-2010, 10:49 AM

I would like to see custom setting that copies the current camera setup to green mode. And one to reset to factory defaults. That way you *CAN* customize to your hearts content and still have a green mode for hand-off or quick shots etc...

Maybe there are custom user modes for that? I only have a K100D so I am not familiar with the "advanced" bodies.

-k

Wheatfield · 03-10-2010, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by kmccanta

I would like to see custom setting that copies the current camera setup to green mode. And one to reset to factory defaults. That way you *CAN* customize to your hearts content and still have a green mode for hand-off or quick shots etc...

Maybe there are custom user modes for that? I only have a K100D so I am not familiar with the "advanced" bodies.

-k

We call that "USER" mode.
Green mode is for when you don't know what you are doing, P mode is the same as Green mode but lets you make adjustments.
It's quite simple, really.

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02-21-2010, 12:21 PM	#16
BBear Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CT / NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 822	I am somehow confused about the issue here... Why cant one just pass the camera under "P" mode again?

02-21-2010, 04:20 PM	#17
braver Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanover, NH Posts: 157 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wheatfield That's what the "P" setting is for. The green setting isn't screwed up, you just don't understand the purpose of it and want it to be something that it isn't. If you read carefully the thread above, you see that someone makes a point of handing it off to friends in the Green mode. Thus my argument shows it doesn't work for RAW shoots of self. I do understand the Green mode; it did shoot RAW on the K10D, didn't it now? I just checked -- RAW works fine on my K10D and always did. Hence the behavior of the Green mode changed, without explanation, for K7.

02-21-2010, 08:36 PM	#18
inferno10 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 342	Originally posted by braver If you read carefully the thread above, you see that someone makes a point of handing it off to friends in the Green mode. Thus my argument shows it doesn't work for RAW shoots of self. I do understand the Green mode; it did shoot RAW on the K10D, didn't it now? I just checked -- RAW works fine on my K10D and always did. Hence the behavior of the Green mode changed, without explanation, for K7. Please explain why you can't just use P mode for this? - Jason

02-21-2010, 09:59 PM	#19
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by braver If you read carefully the thread above, you see that someone makes a point of handing it off to friends in the Green mode. Thus my argument shows it doesn't work for RAW shoots of self. I do understand the Green mode; it did shoot RAW on the K10D, didn't it now? I just checked -- RAW works fine on my K10D and always did. Hence the behavior of the Green mode changed, without explanation, for K7. I guess the obvious question is why is an explanation needed? What Pentax has done is fixed the green mode to ensure that users of it can't screw anything up. If you want to hand your camera off and have raw files, put it in P mode. This isn't rocket science. Tang is Rocket Science. I understand that Post-It notes are rocket science. Apparently WD-40 is rocket science.

02-22-2010, 11:45 AM	#20
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	I'd guess that some users complained that Green mode didn't revert to JPEG. Like I said, you can't please everyone. You can of course use "P" mode as the wuick hand-it-off-to-someone else mode. It won't reset ISO to auto for you (although you can do that yourself), and might leave some other settings in non-Green state, but presumably you have them in a useful state already.

03-10-2010, 10:49 AM	#21
kmccanta Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	I would like to see custom setting that copies the current camera setup to green mode. And one to reset to factory defaults. That way you CAN customize to your hearts content and still have a green mode for hand-off or quick shots etc... Maybe there are custom user modes for that? I only have a K100D so I am not familiar with the "advanced" bodies. -k

03-10-2010, 11:58 AM	#22
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by kmccanta I would like to see custom setting that copies the current camera setup to green mode. And one to reset to factory defaults. That way you CAN customize to your hearts content and still have a green mode for hand-off or quick shots etc... Maybe there are custom user modes for that? I only have a K100D so I am not familiar with the "advanced" bodies. -k We call that "USER" mode. Green mode is for when you don't know what you are doing, P mode is the same as Green mode but lets you make adjustments. It's quite simple, really.