Originally posted by stanjo Some will say that the in-body SR is a great deal - it's not IMHO. It saves you an f-stop
In my experience, it's more than one stop, to the extent that this is a meaningful way of measuring. But even if you call it one stop, one free f-stop that costs nothing in terms of DOF and works with every lens you will own - think about that. Upgrading every lens you own to a version one stop faster - that could costs *thousands* of dollars. Even if we accepted the claim that it's only on f-stop, that's still *hugely* valuable.
Quote: SR mostly helps for shooting static subjects with long lens.
And static subjects with shorter lenses. And of course "static" doesn't mean inanimate - people are often "static" enough for SR to be an advantage. The ability to reliably handhold a candid taken at a "normal" or short telephoto focal length using a shutter speed of, say, 1/20" - 1/30" - that's *huge* advantage, as that is fast enough to get sharp pictures of most living subjects who are not actively running around. Sure, it won't stop people who *are* actively running around. But neither will actually going with a stop faster lens with that much less DOF. If you want to stop action, you need more light, true. But there are a *ton* of situations where just getting rid of the camera shake at 1/20"- 1/30" makes all the difference in the world.
I've shot *tends of thousands* of these kind of pictures, and I can absolutely assure you it is *incredibly* useful.
Quote: you don't need all your lenses to be VR, you can certainly do without for short and medium lenses.
Of course you *can* do without - as long as you don't mind many of your low light pictures being worse than they need to be (using higher ISO to avoid camera shake, or just living with the shake). But it *does* make a difference - and a pretty big one.
Quote: I'm afraid the Pentax system is becoming less compelling for the average consumer (such as me).
Only the average consumer who doesn't understand just how valuable SR really is. Your other points don't really make sense, either - the "average consumer" won;t see the K-x body as crippled since it's more functional than anything else in the price range, nor will he see the K-7 sensor as "subpar" since it's one of the best ever produced *exact* at very high ISO, nor does the "average consumer" tend to worry about how many options he has for external flash, etc. And as for AF, have you actually *used* a K-x? have you seen people complaining in any of these forums about it not being fast enough? It's a common enough complaint about older bodies, and mostly among pros with higher expectation, but saying that the K-x's AF going to be issue for the "average consumer" is *way* off base.