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04-16-2010, 11:02 AM   #16
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It is a very good price. I bought my K20D from a forum member six months ago to replace one of my K10D, and have my other K10D as a back up (less than 3k shutter count.) I was planning to get another K20D and sell the K10D. At this price, I may get a K-7 and leave the K20D as a back up. Let see what happen in few months.

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I just looked at a bunch of new and used prices for the K-7 and I'm still seeing mostly $999 everywhere I look for new with the 18-55mm WR kit lens, and around $850 used for the body only. I guess I'm just missing all of the good deals.

Wasn't it something like $1299 when it was first introduced? If it has only fallen that much in price, then I don't think that we have very much to worry about, considering that isn't really that much at all for how long that camera has been out and released. Usually most Canon cameras lose half their value within a year. Then again most of their cameras have two new successors out by the time it's been a year.
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which one to get

So if Pentax is looking to replace the K7, I wonder what I will do....keep some cash and buy a closeout K7 or spend more and get whatever its replacement is...
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Given the typical 18 months between similar releases (K10 --> K20 --> K-7), we won't be seeing a K-7 replacement until the end of this year.

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QuoteOriginally posted by krypticide Quote
Given the typical 18 months between similar releases (K10 --> K20 --> K-7), we won't be seeing a K-7 replacement until the end of this year.
I think you might be right considering they have released the 645d..

There have been a number of threads asking this....

Might be a month or two off, but the dates I could dig up from the web are;
K10d - released Sept 06
K10d Grand Prix - released June 07
K20d - released Jan 08
K20d Titan - released Mar 09
K-7 - released May 09
K-7 Silver - released Mar 10

So...if this timeline holds true....the next top end 35mm dslr camera would be in 2 to 6 months. Of course the release of the 645d could cause a change in the schedule....
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If they can, I suspect that Pentax will announce in September at the PMA camera show. After that they will be in to the holidays, thus September makes sense in order to sell into Christmas. If they miss the holidays it will be well into next year, I suspect. I would think an early indication to their thinking is how the K7 price goes. The sooner it softens, the sooner I would suspect Pentax would attempt to announce. It would be interesting to see Christmas with a K7 at $700 and a new body at $1300 to $1500. I would think that is something that Pentax would rather not have.
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oooooooooooh K-7X
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QuoteOriginally posted by smc Quote
I think you might be right considering they have released the 645d..

There have been a number of threads asking this....

Might be a month or two off, but the dates I could dig up from the web are;
K10d - released Sept 06
K10d Grand Prix - released June 07
K20d - released Jan 08
K20d Titan - released Mar 09
K-7 - released May 09
K-7 Silver - released Mar 10

So...if this timeline holds true....the next top end 35mm dslr camera would be in 2 to 6 months. Of course the release of the 645d could cause a change in the schedule....
I think you have a couple of announcement dates in there (k10 and k7). Of all the 3 pro bodies (excluding the special editions which were just cosmetic), the k7 has definitely kept the highest value over an extended period. By this time the k10 and k20 would have been found with kit at most places for around $800, if that. I think we will still see a k7 refresh before the end of the year though. Perhaps they will do a solid refresh, then focus on some new WR lenses. The Kx can be ridden for more extended period than usual as well IMO, it is just such a great little camera.

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Watching K-7 prices nose-dive can only mean one thing... Pentax must have something absolutely spectacular that will be very reasonably priced as a replacement.
Man, this is like over-payed Wallstreet brokers watching what other brokers are buying who in turn watch them ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
Man, this is like over-payed Wallstreet brokers watching what other brokers are buying who in turn watch them ...
It's just the way most people are trained, sadly. They always want something more when what they have doesn't have what they want.

Can you see the cycle of redundancy there?
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Interesting thing is that people seriously compare K7 and 550D at almost the same price :-)
If you throw video out of equation K7 is better in every known aspect.
And I am sure that main target will be video now.
We'll see Penatx and new Sony cameras using same sensor, sensor based IS, less noise, less noticable rolling shutter, and Canon will bite the dust.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tr13 Quote
Interesting thing is that people seriously compare K7 and 550D at almost the same price :-)
If you throw video out of equation K7 is better in every known aspect.
And I am sure that main target will be video now.
We'll see Penatx and new Sony cameras using same sensor, sensor based IS, less noise, less noticable rolling shutter, and Canon will bite the dust.
haha i like the sond of that. i wonder when the video will become so good that the press start to use it on dslrs. i doubt that will ever happen. it seems like a bit of a gimmick to me
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QuoteOriginally posted by tr13 Quote
Interesting thing is that people seriously compare K7 and 550D at almost the same price :-)
If you throw video out of equation K7 is better in every known aspect.
And I am sure that main target will be video now.
We'll see Penatx and new Sony cameras using same sensor, sensor based IS, less noise, less noticable rolling shutter, and Canon will bite the dust.
they shot the last episode of house using a canon 5d so dslr video is only going to get better.

however, i hope pentax will focus on getting the other aspects of still photography on their next flagship instead of video. that can come at a lower priority.

priority is AF/tracking, high iso noise control, video.

i wonder if the K7 will drop all the way to under $700 like the k20. the k10 went as low as $550, k20 around $650 so maybe k7 at $700 ?
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I am sorry to say, but photo features competition is over (in sub $2000 market).
And video features is new field.
And yes, they are going to get better, but slowly. Your money at stake, so marketing will prevail.

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QuoteOriginally posted by tr13 Quote
I am sorry to say, but photo features compatition is over.
And video features is new field.
And yes, they are going to get better, but slowly. Your money at stake, so marketing will prevail.
I don't see how you can really say that, there still is a huge megapixel war between all of the companies (the Canon 7D has 18 megapixels, really?) and Live View still hasn't been perfected yet (it still takes ages to focus while using it and it kills battery lie on most DSLRs) and there's really a ton of other areas such as weather sealing and LCD size and resolution that still haven't been perfected on every camera.
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