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TriCon · 04-23-2010, 02:20 PM

Really, this is what you worry about? Someone needs to be out shooting pics.

Ira · 04-23-2010, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by TriCon

Really, this is what you worry about? Someone needs to be out shooting pics.

As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time.

Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why?

"Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go."

History is strewn with examples with stupid little mistakes that make a huge difference in a product's success, and the perceived name of a product is the MOST important element to it's success or failure.

séamuis · 04-23-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Ira

As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time.

Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why?

"Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go."

History is strewn with examples with stupid little mistakes that make a huge difference in a product's success, and the perceived name of a product is the MOST important element to it's success or failure.

*ist. enough said.

Ira · 04-23-2010, 03:22 PM

Damn! Can't fix my typos ("it's," for example) on the iTouch mobile app!

Ira · 04-23-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by séamuis

*ist. enough said.

I have no CLUE how you're supposed to pronounce that.

séamuis · 04-23-2010, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Ira

I have no CLUE how you're supposed to pronounce that.

Pentax has no clue how to pronounce that.

zxaar · 04-23-2010, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Blue Jay

Is there any standardization for how K-X is pronounced?
i.e. "starist" was a surprise.

Kay Ecks?
Kicks?

you guys are doing all wrong, the dash in between k and x tells that all the letters from k to x have to be pronounced.
So actually it is pronounced -

kay el em en o pee queue are ass tee you we double_you eeks.

:-D

Blue Jay · 04-23-2010, 06:37 PM

Somebody actually once made a word out of the letter sequence.
"K L M N O P"

KELEMENOPY/kɛlɛmɛnˈəʊpɪ/
A sequential straight line through the middle of everything, leading nowhere.

Leading nowhere.

So whoever pointed out we should/could be out taking taking photos, they are very right.

(Did the Pentax marketeers put out a promo video for the K-X, or did I imagine that? That should have settled this right off...)

unixrevolution · 04-23-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Ira

As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time.

Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why?

"Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go."

History is strewn with examples with stupid little mistakes that make a huge difference in a product's success, and the perceived name of a product is the MOST important element to it's success or failure.

The Datsun 240Z was almost introduced in the US under it's Japanese name...the Datsun Fairlady.

How well would that have sold?

jct us101 · 04-23-2010, 11:06 PM

The K to X really sounds cool to me, I actually like that a ton more than any other pronunciation that I've heard and I had never thought of that myself before, thanks for suggesting that! I suppose the K-7 could be the K to 7 but that just sounds elementary (hehe) instead. I really love that K to X pronunciation though so much more!

Ira · 04-24-2010, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by unixrevolution

The Datsun 240Z was almost introduced in the US under it's Japanese name...the Datsun Fairlady.

How well would that have sold?

It might have sold great in Greenwich Village.

Blue Jay · 04-24-2010, 08:25 AM

Just like Dorothy's Ruby Slippers -
it was right here all along...

K-x Black - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site

Click on "Watch Demo"

Kay Ecks

privateryan · 04-24-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Ira

As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time.

Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why?

"Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go.

This story is an urban legend that has been circulating for some years. Just google urban legend Nova as a "case in point". And a discussion over the pronuciation of K-X? Wow... So can anyone tell me how to pronounce K-7? Lol

bikecoboss · 04-24-2010, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by privateryan

This story is an urban legend that has been circulating for some years. Just google urban legend Nova as a "case in point". And a discussion over the pronuciation of K-X? Wow... So can anyone tell me how to pronounce K-7? Lol

'No va' does mean 'doesn't go', but Snopes agrees that it wasn't actually interpreted that way in Latin America.
snopes.com: Nova Don't Go

There is another story like this: Pepsi's slogan, 'Come alive with Pepsi!' was (maybe) interpreted in China as 'Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the dead'.
snopes.com: Pepsi Brings Back Ancestors
I guess that could either help or hinder sales, depending on how one felt about the deceased...

MacKay · 04-24-2010, 04:13 PM

lets call it Kilo X-ray

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04-23-2010, 02:20 PM	#31
TriCon Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 71	Really, this is what you worry about? Someone needs to be out shooting pics.

04-23-2010, 03:18 PM	#32
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by TriCon Really, this is what you worry about? Someone needs to be out shooting pics. As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time. Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why? "Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go." History is strewn with examples with stupid little mistakes that make a huge difference in a product's success, and the perceived name of a product is the MOST important element to it's success or failure.

04-23-2010, 03:21 PM	#33
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Ira As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time. Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why? "Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go." History is strewn with examples with stupid little mistakes that make a huge difference in a product's success, and the perceived name of a product is the MOST important element to it's success or failure. *ist. enough said.

04-23-2010, 03:22 PM	#34
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Damn! Can't fix my typos ("it's," for example) on the iTouch mobile app!

04-23-2010, 03:23 PM	#35
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by séamuis *ist. enough said. I have no CLUE how you're supposed to pronounce that.

04-23-2010, 03:24 PM	#36
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Ira I have no CLUE how you're supposed to pronounce that. Pentax has no clue how to pronounce that.

04-23-2010, 04:19 PM	#37
zxaar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: kobe/japan Posts: 510	Originally posted by Blue Jay Is there any standardization for how K-X is pronounced? i.e. "starist" was a surprise. Kay Ecks? Kicks? you guys are doing all wrong, the dash in between k and x tells that all the letters from k to x have to be pronounced. So actually it is pronounced - kay el em en o pee queue are ass tee you we double_you eeks. :-D

04-23-2010, 06:37 PM	#38
Blue Jay New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehachapi California Posts: 22 Original Poster	Somebody actually once made a word out of the letter sequence. "K L M N O P" KELEMENOPY/kɛlɛmɛnˈəʊpɪ/ A sequential straight line through the middle of everything, leading nowhere. Leading nowhere. So whoever pointed out we should/could be out taking taking photos, they are very right. (Did the Pentax marketeers put out a promo video for the K-X, or did I imagine that? That should have settled this right off...)

04-23-2010, 10:01 PM	#39
unixrevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waldorf, MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,861	Originally posted by Ira As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time. Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why? "Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go." History is strewn with examples with stupid little mistakes that make a huge difference in a product's success, and the perceived name of a product is the MOST important element to it's success or failure. The Datsun 240Z was almost introduced in the US under it's Japanese name...the Datsun Fairlady. How well would that have sold?

04-23-2010, 11:06 PM	#40
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	The K to X really sounds cool to me, I actually like that a ton more than any other pronunciation that I've heard and I had never thought of that myself before, thanks for suggesting that! I suppose the K-7 could be the K to 7 but that just sounds elementary (hehe) instead. I really love that K to X pronunciation though so much more!

04-24-2010, 06:23 AM	#41
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by unixrevolution The Datsun 240Z was almost introduced in the US under it's Japanese name...the Datsun Fairlady. How well would that have sold? It might have sold great in Greenwich Village.

04-24-2010, 08:25 AM	#42
Blue Jay New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehachapi California Posts: 22 Original Poster	Just like Dorothy's Ruby Slippers - it was right here all along... K-x Black - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site Click on "Watch Demo" Kay Ecks

04-24-2010, 01:38 PM	#43
privateryan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 209	Originally posted by Ira As trivial as this may seem, a name can make or break a product-- big time. Case in point, the Chevy Nova, which experienced fantastic initial success in the U.S. But when introduced to Mexico and the rest of Latin America, it was a total bomb, although the product was still great. Wanna know why? "Nova" for Spanish speakers is read and seen as "No va," which means, "It doesn't go. This story is an urban legend that has been circulating for some years. Just google urban legend Nova as a "case in point". And a discussion over the pronuciation of K-X? Wow... So can anyone tell me how to pronounce K-7? Lol

04-24-2010, 03:06 PM	#44
bikecoboss Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pemberton BC Posts: 238	Originally posted by privateryan This story is an urban legend that has been circulating for some years. Just google urban legend Nova as a "case in point". And a discussion over the pronuciation of K-X? Wow... So can anyone tell me how to pronounce K-7? Lol 'No va' does mean 'doesn't go', but Snopes agrees that it wasn't actually interpreted that way in Latin America. snopes.com: Nova Don't Go There is another story like this: Pepsi's slogan, 'Come alive with Pepsi!' was (maybe) interpreted in China as 'Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the dead'. snopes.com: Pepsi Brings Back Ancestors I guess that could either help or hinder sales, depending on how one felt about the deceased...

04-24-2010, 04:13 PM	#45
MacKay Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fredericton Posts: 68	lets call it Kilo X-ray

Pronounciation question K-X

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