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04-28-2010, 09:46 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by kytra Quote
If you want to upgrade, buy a K7 - now that is a camera which can compete head to head from every angle with the likes of Canon 7D and Nik D300 with a significantly lower price tag.
I strongly disagree with this. Certainly the k-7 is a great upgrade from the k-x (in all areas except high-iso performance), but speaking from experience, there is no measure of performance where the k-7 outperforms the 7D. I can't speak to the 300s.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kytra Quote

If you want to upgrade, buy a K7 - now that is a camera which can compete head to head from every angle with the likes of Canon 7D and Nik D300 with a significantly lower price tag.
Except for AF speed/sensitivity and in the case of the 7D for sure, high ISO capability.
The K7 is a very nice camera, but it is not in the same league as the 7D or D300
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QuoteOriginally posted by Al_in_the_Shire Quote
I had the chance to play with a K7 for a week. I used my Sigma 150-500, sigma 105 macro, DA 55-300 and 16-45 lens on the camera. I shot it at high ISO, low ISO, for birds, for landscapes and for macro.

It did very well everywhere except in the bird area. I honestly did not think it was that much better in IQ than either my K200 or k20, and actually worse with the 150-500 in many instances.
Entirely possible that your 150-500 was front- or back-focusing with the K-7. It's been known to happen.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Al_in_the_Shire Quote
The K7 has a lot of bells and whistles, but it cannot come close to competing with the 7D or D300 in high ISO capability
Why do I keep seeing this kind of statement everywhere?
It's wrong - K-7 sensor is very much comparable in high ISO with 7D and D300S. RAW files are pretty similar. JPEG files rely on in-camera noise reduction, where Pentax doesn't use the heavy hand of other brands.


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QuoteOriginally posted by PentaxPoke Quote
I strongly disagree with this. Certainly the k-7 is a great upgrade from the k-x (in all areas except high-iso performance), but speaking from experience, there is no measure of performance where the k-7 outperforms the 7D. I can't speak to the 300s.
Depends on how you define 'performance'. 7D (and D300S) certainly have better numbers in some areas people find important - frame rate, AF speed (esp continuous), high ISO JPEG noise.

K-7 is much smaller, lighter, quieter, ergonomic (in my opinion), has more available settings like TAv. It still incorporates top build quality (where it claims to work in more harsh conditions than 7D or D300S), great viewfinder, good frame rate and single point AF speed.

I get shots with the K-7 I could not get with the huge, loud D300S or 7D, despite their great AF speeds etc.
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Using RAW and the appropriate noise reduction, the K-7's high ISO results up to 3200 can be basically imperceptible from the K-x, D300 and the 7D.
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In all fairness, comparing the K-7 to the 7D and the D300s may be a little out of it's league. Consider the prices for the 7D and D300s ($1600 for the 7D/D300s versus $850 for the K-7), not to mention the 7D is 18 megapixels compared to K-7's 14.6. I would think that if the K-7 was just as god or better than those two, shame on them for pricing their bodies so high (or is Pentax pricing theirs more fairly?)

I'd say it would be more fair to compare the K-7 with the likes of the D90 or 50D, which are more in line with the price tag and feature set of those two.

At the end of the day, I would would really like to see Pentax offer a flagship which does in fact have it all, or at least have it more than what is currently on offer. I don't care so much about the price as long as it is a feature packed body with the right sensor, metering and AF. If they offer it for $1899 retail, who cares...it will come down after 6 months and if it's the right camera, it will sell. Until then, I will happily be shooting with my K-7 and not really being concerned with comparing apples to oranges and pears as long as my apple tastes good, that's what really matters.

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