Originally posted by danielausparis please note that the longest tele is the DA* 4/300
The longest telephoto, by custom order only, is still the Pentax FA* 600mm F4 ED(IF).
whilst i'm here preparing for a Zombie Shuffle...
Originally posted by danielausparis 1. Lens portfolio. Pentax offers today not less than 5 (five) isolated lens families.
how are they isolated? They're all K-mount derivatives. it's one thing to say the new FA645 55mm SDM won't fit on a K7, but there's nothing stopping you from mounting any of the K-mount lenses on a current Crop KAF3 camera
Originally posted by danielausparis One may wonder. Does this correspond to 5 isolated teams within this company, competing one against the other?
It would be pretty silly to have 2 teams tasked to develop the D-FA and FA line, given that there hasn't been a new FA design since the FA31mm LTD in 03, and the D-FA 100mm Macro WR is (as far as my research says) the same optical formula as in the non-WR D-FA macro, as well as the FA macro and F macro.
Again, they're not isolated and if anything, the majority of FA lenses were developed well before Pentax even thought of the MZ-D, whilst most of the DA lenses were developed after the release of the *ist D in 03.
there's also the note that a lot of Pentax's Digital lenses were co-developed with another company, saving R&D resources. In one case, the DA18-250, Pentax took an existing Tamron lens and rebadged and recased it.
Originally posted by danielausparis Anyway, who can reasonably argue that you need both a 35mm and a 31mm?
will the FA31LTD do Macro? will the DA31 work without vignetting on my Film K1000. Can i afford either when the FA35 F2 is a nice cheap in-between step..
Originally posted by danielausparis a 40mm and a 43mm?
Will the DA40 work fine on my K1000?
Originally posted by danielausparis a 70mm and a 77mm? Etc. etc. Meanwhile, important gaps can be noticed in the portfolio.
and other gaps would be introduced if pentax were to consolidate as per your suggestion.
Originally posted by danielausparis Who cares really about a 35mm being macro?
You don't. others do. I would if i could afford some more lenses since i want a wide angle close focusing lens like the DA35LTD for some of my hobbies.
Originally posted by danielausparis We all know that macro prefers some longer lenses, 90mm and above.
all of which are too look for my macro usage.
Originally posted by danielausparis Of course, there is the D FA 100mm, but autofocus won't be very helpful in macro
... on the assumption that the ONLY thing you're using a D-FA 100mm for is Macro...
the D-FA 100mm is the right size for my portraiture and has nice bokeh imo, but far far too long for my macro work. shame i didn't pick one up when i was in japan...
Originally posted by danielausparis These discussion matters appear everyday in Pentaxforums...
Same with Full Frame discussions. Doesn't mean they're not stupid, banal, and from people who really need to drop K-mount and go to Canon or Nikon...
Yes, i took out "good reason" for a "good reason"
Originally posted by danielausparis 2. "Bling bling" syndrome. One has still to explain why one needs Weather Resistant lenses (or bodies).
Sand. Rain. Seasalt, Tomato and Barbeque sauce. Fake blood. I've seen Canons and Nikons die in the same usage i put my K200D and K7 though. And i've seen people not take their cameras in similar situations.
Originally posted by danielausparis Durability? Please, show me these lenses and bodies in 40+ years (age of my K and M lenses, that are like new).
there's no doubting that the current lenses won't last as long as, say, an M lens (hell, my Tamron 18-200's falling apart...), but i would want it to fall apart later, given the abuse i give my cameras and lenses and the conditions that it goes through, rather than some similarly priced DSLR or lenses that isn't build as strongly.
Originally posted by danielausparis Why do I need to spend real money for a feature that is not at all my (or anybody's) requirement?
Where is the assumption that having WR adds significantly to the cost? to get K7 kind of sealing with Canon or Nikon, you're looking no less than the 1D and D3 series. On it's own, the 18-55WR and 50-200WR aren't significantly more expensive. Sure, the DA*s are fairly expensive as Pentax lenses go, but they're no more expensive than equivalent Canon Ls and Nikon pro lenses.
Don't make the assumption that WR isn't anybody's requirement. It was one of mine, and one of the reason i stayed with a K200D and instead of moving to the 450D & D60. It's the reason i stayed with the K7 instead of moving to a D90 or 50D
Originally posted by danielausparis Same question, even more serious one, for SDM: why the heck spend top dollar for a feature that is already taken in charge by the body? This looks again like competing isolated teams developing redundant solutions for problems that don't exist. I prefer not to discuss the SDM disaster here, it has already been subject to many posts and initiatives elsewhere.
Admittedly, Pentax's SDM implementation in-lens leaves a lot to be desired. But the contacts are already there (they are old Power Zoom contacts). why not use them for something?
however, the problem did exist. the speed of the screwdrive AF, pre K20/200D generation, wasn't exactly brilliant. It was also noisy. Sure, the SDM isn't Canon L USM silent, but it was a damn sight better than anything on screwdrive.
a full move to SDM can't happen as Pentax's DA LTD pancake lenses don't have the physical space to have one. If pentax can implement a ring type USM motor like in Canon's USM or Nikon's AF-S, then SDM on K-mount becomes decidely more appealing. My friends with Sigma HSM lenses on their Pentax DSLRs dont' seem to complain....
you're also saying this as if no other company has ever had to decide on whether to put AF motors in the body or lens...
Originally posted by danielausparis 3. Bodies. Meanwhile, there are today only two bodies to choose from.
So? 2 good, well segmented bodies isn't a bad thing...
Originally posted by danielausparis Canon has nine...
with 4, yes, FOUR, in the entry level bracket. all varying so little that video and price point is the segmentation.
Originally posted by danielausparis Nikon has nine as well.
i count 7 (D3000, D5000, D90, D300s. D700, D3S, D3X) and Again, all so close that they overlap.
Originally posted by danielausparis Everything speaks for a reach towards high-end markets, since low and middle are already covered. Such a camera could have been developed a long time ago with the engineers of the WR and SDM teams -- at no further R&D expense.
*points to the 645D* It's a high end market that Canon or Nikon don't have campers high-end enough to compete in.
Realistically, the high end market is small. 5-9% or so. Sure, everyone with a Digital Rebel wants an FF, but how many are actually going to pony up the funds to do so.
for a company so small with such a small sales percentage, there are events i go to that have more Pentaxes than FF cameras from the 3 FF makers combined. and invariably, unless they're pros, if it starts to pour they'll be the first ones under cover protecting their FF bodies..